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defacto7

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Sun Aug 26, 2018, 03:42 PM Aug 2018

Experiencing the Presence of God [View all]

Last edited Sun Aug 26, 2018, 05:55 PM - Edit history (1)

Have you ever felt the extatic immeasurable sense of oneness with our creator and the universe? I have. I felt it hiking the peaks of the Rockies in '74. I felt it diving in the amazingly clear waters of Hawai'i in 77'. I felt it standing on the summit of Mt. Ranier in 80'. I felt it at the moment each of my children were born. I felt it the moment my father died. You know what's so incredible about this out of body feeling? It's that our human brain has evolved to feel wonder, empathy and to seek the frontiers of our universe with emotion and reverence. Ironically, it's done so in spite of our ancient clan mentality that seeks to kill and destroy for the survival of the few.

Unfortunately, not all humans have been able to shake the ancient ways as those ways have become obsolete. Mixing early human survival, fear and anihilation of competition with more recent self-awareness and wonder has been a disastrous combination culminating in the worship of myth to the exclusion of reason and reality. Hopefully there's time left for humanity as many of us have decided to make the earth with all its natural beauty, intuition and warnings insignificant. In this final battle if we persist in fighting our existential mother, we will lose. The earth will wisk us out of existence as if we had never been; it will heal and continue.

This leads me to name God. It's none other than the physics of the universe and importantly the earth from which we evolved. It's not a mind or a being, it's greater than that. It's the perfect intellect of time, physics, matter and its creation. It doesn't demand worship, only respect. It doesn't demand immediacy but it won't be ignored.

D7

On edit hopefully for clarity:

Do theists have these esoteric, existential moments and call it God? There's a billboard that says, "There's evidence for God." and it shows a cute little baby, how nice, although it's a logical fallacy since babies come from a natural evolutionary process called sex and don't require a supernatural being. I don't think having prejudicial feelings toward a word because of how it's used is very useful. If we don't redefine the words they use in a way that leads to a reasonable conclusion, this kind of illogical thinking will persist memetically as it has for centuries, because words like God are not going to go away for a long long time.

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Have I ever felt oneness with our creator? Croney Aug 2018 #1
You haven't felt oneness with the natural forces defacto7 Aug 2018 #5
You seem to be sort of a pantheist. Voltaire2 Aug 2018 #9
More of an ignostic. It's the semantics. defacto7 Aug 2018 #11
I'm a solotarian SCantiGOP Aug 2018 #14
Damn, I've been left behind. defacto7 Aug 2018 #15
Sounds like you had some endorphins kick in. bitterross Aug 2018 #2
I agree. I don't ascribe it to any higher being... defacto7 Aug 2018 #4
Sorry re my post below. Duppers Aug 2018 #7
Sorry for the confusion and I don't mind your comment. defacto7 Aug 2018 #13
I added an edit. Hopefully it makes the point more clear. defacto7 Aug 2018 #18
Higher power still reeks of determinism bitterross Aug 2018 #8
I agree with your point of view. defacto7 Aug 2018 #12
Yes. mia Aug 2018 #3
Thank you for the reply, mia defacto7 Aug 2018 #19
You are not saying there's an entity Duppers Aug 2018 #6
I agree with you completely defacto7 Aug 2018 #10
Might you be fluent in more languages than just English? Croney Aug 2018 #16
Colloquial, who knows. Just bad grammar. defacto7 Aug 2018 #17
I have felt a deep awe RussBLib Aug 2018 #20
I've never experienced mind altering drugs.. defacto7 Aug 2018 #21
If it's all about feeling the presence, you should join the Hawaiians and worship Pele... Towlie Aug 2018 #22
Why? and of course. defacto7 Aug 2018 #23
Yes, I read your essay. It's typical and easy to refute with commonly known quotes. Towlie Aug 2018 #24
If that's how you read it, I'm sorry. defacto7 Aug 2018 #25
I have Blind Faith edhopper Aug 2018 #26
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