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JCanete

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16. That isn't true about Sanders campaign in the least.
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 02:25 PM
Jun 2016

He has never said he could fix anything alone.

He has kept his message very simple, and that has been a good thing. Clinton has talked out of every side of her mouth and managed to say nothing at all. People take that for sophistication. She's not counting on intelligent people to vote for her, she's counting on people being so baffled by what she says that they think she must be the most qualified for the job. And she gets a lot of help being represented that way.

I absolutely agree with you about our electorate, and I would be lying if I didn't think that Bernie had pulled some people without a clue to his side. But at least he's pulling them to his side with the actual realities of our system. At least he's focusing on those issues that cut to the core of our democracy. At least his message was one of galvanizing the issues of white middle class Americans together with the interests of the poor and minorities, and immigrants. His message was one of common cause...until the Clinton camp and the media did its number on it and went with the old divide and conquer.

It would be cool if maybe we had a better system of education in this country, but that's just the old guy who's preying on our ignorance that wants free college.

See, from my perspective, if you aren't in the top 1% and you are voting for Clinton, then you aren't voting in your self interest, and maybe that's a matter of being just a wee bit ignorant on her actual history and policies. Funny enough, nobody on this board of boards has done a good job of explaining why Clinton is better than Sanders on any issue under the Sun, cept that "she's so wonky..." I will accept that democrats in the top 1% are overwhelmingly pro-Clinton, and she even has plenty of republican support up there, and that they are not generally ignorant on politics, so, well, there's that. What could they see in her?


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Stanford/Tilburg paper criticized and was responded to, quickly, with facts laserhaas Jun 2016 #1
Jury results Amaril Jun 2016 #2
Aw -damn... I just lost the bet pool laserhaas Jun 2016 #3
Kickin' for the truth! Faux pas Jun 2016 #4
Pshaw! - Barring an arising Smoking Gun, regrettably, the only way to fix, is Congress or Courts laserhaas Jun 2016 #6
The BIG issue is the strongly negative tone for Hortensis Jun 2016 #5
The old adage, there's no such thing as bad publicity laserhaas Jun 2016 #7
Wow, how about you back up the claim that Sanders built his campaign on ignorance. It's nice to JCanete Jun 2016 #8
The only rationale dat kuud B off'rd - is laserhaas Jun 2016 #9
Maybe go read about populism and the typical Hortensis Jun 2016 #10
That isn't true about Sanders campaign in the least. JCanete Jun 2016 #16
They see she's a Clinton and she's a she and she's a Hillary laserhaas Jun 2016 #17
Except coverage of the issues was NOT equal - HRC got 4x more coverage Doremus Jun 2016 #12
We are pawns of the media, who have no compunction, nor motivation, to be anything other than self laserhaas Jun 2016 #13
You misunderstood my point, and Hortensis Jun 2016 #15
Anyone with a populist message benefits from discontent but the message must be broadcast Doremus Jun 2016 #18
Gotcha. No wonder what's-his-name lost. Hortensis Jun 2016 #22
Still going over this but ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #11
Me thinks the AP thump was a "Red Herring" to cloak the rigs laserhaas Jun 2016 #14
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K&R.. disillusioned73 Jun 2016 #20
Thanks laserhaas Jun 2016 #21
I think Hillary won fair and square, but folks should say otherwise bigwillq Jun 2016 #23
Its only a discussion of facts laserhaas Jun 2016 #24
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Election fraud is real. peace13 Jun 2016 #26
Exactly.....Liking results of fraud because your pick won laserhaas Jun 2016 #28
KnR nt chknltl Jun 2016 #27
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I regularly just knr-nt stuff i think worthy but... chknltl Jun 2016 #30
Im extremely disheartened as Bernie is our only hope laserhaas Jun 2016 #31
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