2016 Postmortem

stopbush

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4. Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and disagree. Vehemently. Because:

Sat Nov 26, 2016, 08:49 PM

Nov 2016

1. This year, "populism" was little more than a code word for fucking racist white people to vote for a fucking racist.

2. Our candidate - Hillary Clinton - had a tremendous and realistic populist message and platform. I know because I read it at her website. Her policies were targeted right at the demo that voted for Trump. You know who didn't give a flying fuck about her populist policies? The fucking media, who were obsessed with pretend email scandals and with making billion$ covering the Trump circus 24/7.

3. Our candidate got the most votes, by a lot. She got the most votes ever for a white person running for president, second only to Barack Obama.

4. The Democratic Party can kiss its future goodbye if it ever abandons its multi-cultural and -racial appeal and make up. As long as we are a rainbow coaltion, we will never appeal to the racists, bigots and misogynists in this country. Finding a way to appeal to racists as racists is a non-starter.

5. The DNC is not going away, corporate support is not going away, our traditional coalition is not going away.

If you need to be wooed back to the D Party, you may be at the wrong online forum.

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What the party needs to do, plain and SIMPLE: [View all] RBInMaine Nov 2016 OP

Change the electoral college. Madam45for2923 Nov 2016 #1

What jobs are we going to create in rural areas? How do you propose to do this? LonePirate Nov 2016 #2

It could have been clean energy, but Trump is going to gut that NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #16

Sure makes sense to me. As has been said forever, people vote with their wallets/pocketbooks RKP5637 Nov 2016 #3

Good points on jobs, but Trump hammered more on hatred, and it worked. Hoyt Nov 2016 #9

Definitely, she had a realistic view and was truthful! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2016 #37

Clinton talked jobs, economy, income inequality, media not interested in showing that. emulatorloo Nov 2016 #12

Yep. Clinton offered far more substance on economic matters. Garrett78 Nov 2016 #18

Definitely that is all one predominately heard. Trump and hatred. Same tactics as Hitler. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2016 #38

Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and disagree. Vehemently. Because: stopbush Nov 2016 #4

This a million times! mcar Nov 2016 #5

Exactly, ignorant white wing racists are responsible for Trump. Hoyt Nov 2016 #10

2, 3, 4 are exactly correct. If we're gonna drop civil rights and purge liberals from the emulatorloo Nov 2016 #13

Bingo! Garrett78 Nov 2016 #19

Thank you, well said. Raastan Nov 2016 #29

plus 1,000,000! DemonGoddess Nov 2016 #43

Resist the temptation of uttering classist slurs against poor whites meow2u3 Nov 2016 #6

I second this. alarimer Nov 2016 #47

The party also needs to get with the times ificandream Nov 2016 #7

I can't believe how Trump got the upper hand on social media EL34x4 Nov 2016 #46

Yeah ... ificandream Nov 2016 #49

Disagree on all points oberliner Nov 2016 #8

We shouldn't lie to the people like Trump did ? Trust Buster Nov 2016 #11

Plus 1 n/t emulatorloo Nov 2016 #14

This...and stop bashing guns and religion or people that embrace them NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #15

Brave post, well thought out, and with suggestions very much worth considering. mtnsnake Nov 2016 #17

Gun control is not about banning or bashing guns. And Clinton is far more religious/Xian than Trump. Garrett78 Nov 2016 #20

You entirely missed the point NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #21

Yes, they've harped about Dems banning guns, but it isn't actually true. Garrett78 Nov 2016 #22

It doesn't matter that it's not true...people believe it NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #26

As I said, Dems can't control what other people believe. Garrett78 Nov 2016 #28

You are completely missing the point... NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #34

Dems *do* correct those lies. Constantly. But... Garrett78 Nov 2016 #45

Liberal disdain for religion may not be the correct understanding Raastan Nov 2016 #30

That's honestly not how it comes across, though NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #35

they have alot of disdain for non christian .religions and being anti muslim was JI7 Nov 2016 #40

Trump's campaign is not 100% representative of his voters NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #42

stop bashing religion ? Does this include Islam and other non christian religions ? JI7 Nov 2016 #33

Yes, it includes ALL religions NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #36

So Far Not A Good Trend colsohlibgal Nov 2016 #23

For what it's worth Schumer claims he is embracing some progressive issues & philosophy think Nov 2016 #25

schumer dOes well wIth rural conservative your voters JI7 Nov 2016 #41

Some excellent points, thanks. democrank Nov 2016 #24

The DNC platform had progressive populists ideas, it did not bring in enough voters. Thinkingabout Nov 2016 #27

#1 SCAPEGOAT SOME MINORITY GROUP JI7 Nov 2016 #31

they don't seem to have a problem with corporate types like Ron Johnson , in fact he did even better JI7 Nov 2016 #32

I hear and agree with this post AmericanMan1958 Nov 2016 #39

Can we dispense with the notion that being a progressive sells in every market? SaschaHM Nov 2016 #44

Well, at this point I think it's more important to just win. alarimer Nov 2016 #48