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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: My dad. Immigrant, Minority, Veteran, Trump Voter [View all]Dems to Win
(2,161 posts)42. I found these articles very helpful in understanding how people could vote for Trump
I feel better about continuing to live among my fellow Americans after reading them
https://medium.com/@jesseleburke/how-trump-won-or-how-hillary-lost-aa6dfbcd4b8b#.23sl1oh2k
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Consider if you believe the preceding arguments about the vast majority of his voters (enough of the general pop to win) prioritizing economic security and justice over social issues, it stands to reason that the best strategy to ensure/expand the size and loyalty of that group would be to ensure that Hillary never gets their ear. So, if I (Trump) want her to stay off the topic of economic security and justice, my strategy is:
1. First position social issues as the misguided (in that theyre not thinking about us and our survival) obsession of the out-of-touch elite who care about me not at all
2. Second, ensure then that she only talks about those very elitist social issues (thereby, creating the cognitive association of her as elite and not for them).
http://slatestarcodex.com/2016/11/16/you-are-still-crying-wolf/
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/11/rust-belt-democrats-saw-trump-wave-coming
And the best article I've read about how to deal with people moving forward:
http://charleseisenstein.net/hategriefandanewstory/
At such moments, it is a normal response to find someone to blame, as if identifying fault could restore the lost normality, and to lash out in anger. Hate and blame are convenient ways of making meaning out of a bewildering situation. Anyone who disputes the blame narrative may receive more hostility than the opponents themselves, as in wartime when pacifists are more reviled than the enemy.
Racism and misogyny are devastatingly real in this country, but to blame bigotry and sexism for voters repudiation of the Establishment is to deny the validity of their deep sense of betrayal and alienation. The vast majority of Trump voters were expressing extreme dissatisfaction with the system in the way most readily available to them. (See here, here, here, here) Millions of Obama voters voted for Trump (six states who went for Obama twice switched to Trump). Did they suddenly become racists in the last four years? The blame-the-racists (the fools, the yokels ) narrative generates a clear demarcation between good (us) and evil (them), but it does violence to the truth. It also obscures an important root of racism anger displaced away from an oppressive system and its elites and onto other victims of that system. Finally, it employs the same dehumanization of the other that is the essence of racism and the precondition for war. Such is the cost of preserving a dying story. That is one reason why paroxysms of violence so often accompany a culture-defining storys demise.
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Even if the person you face IS a misogynist or bigot, ask, Is this who they are, really? Ask what confluence of circumstances, social, economic, and biographical, may have brought them there. You may still not know how to engage them, but at least you will not be on the warpath automatically. We hate what we fear, and we fear what we do not know. So lets stop making our opponents invisible behind a caricature of evil.
Weve got to stop acting out hate. I see no less of it in the liberal media than I do in the right-wing. It is just better disguised, hiding beneath pseudo-psychological epithets and dehumanizing ideological labels. Exercising it, we create more of it. What is beneath the hate? My acupuncturist Sarah Fields wrote to me, Hate is just a bodyguard for grief. When people lose the hate, they are forced to deal with the pain beneath.
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So, if someone posts a message like this, the only appropriate response is to cuddle and coddle?
EffieBlack
Dec 2016
#106
I don't have to personally know them to know they have aligned with racists
EffieBlack
Dec 2016
#118
No - we want to reach out to more voters who those supposedly "aliented" voters don't
EffieBlack
Dec 2016
#46
Let's get it straight. Nearly 3 million more voted Dem. It's not about wanting to keep losing . . .
brush
Dec 2016
#127
I found these articles very helpful in understanding how people could vote for Trump
Dems to Win
Dec 2016
#42
All of Trump's voters HAD to be comfortable with racism and sexism since they voted for him
EffieBlack
Dec 2016
#74
I voted for Hillary though I wasn't comfortable as a feminist with Bill returning to the White House
Dems to Win
Dec 2016
#86
"Nobody cared about them" because equal attention to everyone was just too fair?
bettyellen
Dec 2016
#19
With all due respect, I have no interest in "connecting" with people like your father
EffieBlack
Dec 2016
#5
If opposing racism, Trump and his supporters is bigotry, I admit it -- I are a big ole BIGOT.
Hoyt
Dec 2016
#37
Rejecting racism is not elitism. Racism is bad. Trump is racist. A vote for Trump is a racist act
Squinch
Dec 2016
#89
Your story illustrates that pandering to profound ignorance really works, thank you for sharing
etherealtruth
Dec 2016
#7
Oh, I am well aware ... he simply was exceptioannly effective (aided by the media)
etherealtruth
Dec 2016
#13
Democrats asked them to vote for a nominee who helped destroy their old way of life
Dems to Win
Dec 2016
#55
I am afraid your father will have to wait a long time for manufacturing to still be viable here.
LisaL
Dec 2016
#10
That may be true, but it doesn't make a vote for Trump any less inexplicable.
TwilightZone
Dec 2016
#23
So, we need sound bites and slogans, not progressive, sustainable actual plans?
herding cats
Dec 2016
#21
Vote for a bigot: misunderstood/needs empathy. Criticize voting for a bigot: hateful
EffieBlack
Dec 2016
#33
"They just don't understand the concerns or thought process of people who disagree with them,"
pangaia
Dec 2016
#47
No one here has done that at all. And shame on you for engaging in such bullshit
EffieBlack
Dec 2016
#35
Do you believe that people who voted for trump were aware of his racism, sexism, and
still_one
Dec 2016
#84
How can someone connect with your dad when he believes Trump and doesn't investigate things?
Vinca
Dec 2016
#32
Trump's populist rhetoric spoke to him, but, facts disproving Trump's rhetoric did NOT?
blm
Dec 2016
#53
Members of a sexist & authoritarian organization voted for a sexist authoritarian
samir.g
Dec 2016
#65
It is utterly DISGUSTING the behavior of some of the people in this thread
NoGoodNamesLeft
Dec 2016
#105
No - Democrats lost those voters because they have refused to cater to other voters' worst
EffieBlack
Dec 2016
#107
My husband is an immigrant (central America), naturalized, Dem voter who went for Trump
Yo_Mama
Dec 2016
#151