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andym

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19. Incorrect-- Free trade is strongly associated with FDR (progressive) and then both parties
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 07:23 PM
Dec 2016

Last edited Sun Dec 4, 2016, 08:19 PM - Edit history (1)

The Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act in 1930 was the GOP's and supported by the "progressive" (sarcasm) Hoover.
These are historical facts.

It was FDR and the progressive Democrats of the 1930s who moved the country toward free trade. Every President until Trump has been a free trader. Even the most progressive Democratic candidate of our times, George McGovern was a free trader. NAFTA was more of the same-- supported by both parties, although the Left did begin to oppose free trade treaties like NAFTA in the 90's, before Trump. Bernie Sanders for one voted against it.

Here is but one article on the history-- I can't quote the whole thing but read it through:
There is nothing controversial here.

https://hbr.org/2016/04/americas-uneasy-history-with-free-trade
"We seem to be awash in opinions about free trade these days. From U.S. presidential campaign rhetoric to the recently signed 12-nation Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) agreement, it might feel like this debate has just started. But debate over trade is as old as the American republic, and it is intertwined with economic theories of competition and geopolitics
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As decades passed, the general trend was toward higher tariffs to protect northern manufacturing; the trend culminated in the highly restrictive Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act of 1930.
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Four years later, however, the tide started to reverse. At that time, President Franklin Roosevelt’s Secretary of State, Cordell Hull, was a dyed-in-the-wool free-trader (reflecting the interests of his state of Tennessee) and he was determined to reverse the high-tariff policies embodied in the the Smoot-Hawley act.
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His answer was to negotiate foreign trade agreements. The U.S. would reduce its tariffs, but only in exchange for partner nations reducing theirs. Congress authorized such negotiations in the landmark Reciprocal Trade Agreements Act of 1934. This new law provided, moreover, that once the lower rates were negotiated, they could be implemented through presidential proclamation. No further Congressional action was required. And the lower rates would be extended to all major US trading partners."
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The Right and the GOP were the last protectionists, so it is fitting that Trump is bringing them back to their roots. Bernie Sanders was also interested in returning the country to more protectionist policies on the Left. But really free trade versus protectionism is not a matter of right/left policy. NAFTA however was the first free trade policy rejected by liberals-- so the Left has wanted to return to protectionism before the Right in modern times. So in that sense you are correct.

Good analysis cilla4progress Dec 2016 #1
NAFTA was passed by a republican Congress and left for incoming Pres Clinton TheDebbieDee Dec 2016 #37
I also heard Thomas Friedman cilla4progress Dec 2016 #38
The writer needed to interview me and lots of people like me who weren't moved by Trump.. JHan Dec 2016 #2
Were you someone who voted for Obama twice and then Trump this past November? EL34x4 Dec 2016 #20
Yes whole year they've been asking why... JHan Dec 2016 #23
But, without the TPP China is free to take over even more of our trade... TreasonousBastard Dec 2016 #3
China and Russia...it'll create a void, both countries will scoop it up. JHan Dec 2016 #5
In terms of trade the 1,000,000 dollar question is... nycbos Dec 2016 #4
Ask Germany how they do it realmirage Dec 2016 #6
What makes Germany successful runs counter to everything Trump proposes. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #17
Google the percentage of Germans realmirage Dec 2016 #18
Read again what I wrote. And do some research on the German economy. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #21
Yep.. JHan Dec 2016 #25
It seems simple answers for complex problems are all the rage. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #28
I think it's motivated reasoning: we choose the information that fits in with our biases. JHan Dec 2016 #30
That's certainly a factor, as well. People believe what they want to believe. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #31
I read it. Here's the data you should consider realmirage Dec 2016 #33
You're not addressing the nature of those manufacturing jobs vs. ours. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #34
You can't argue against the facts I just gave you realmirage Dec 2016 #35
Your data has zero context. You're ignoring the nature of those jobs. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #36
Smoot-Hawley is overblown portlander23 Dec 2016 #9
Of course trade protectionism wasn't the cause. nycbos Dec 2016 #13
It certainly spawned retaliation portlander23 Dec 2016 #15
This is the message of our future if we want to survive realmirage Dec 2016 #7
He didn't move to Clinton's left. He went populist- andym Dec 2016 #8
NAFTA was a right-wing idea portlander23 Dec 2016 #14
Incorrect-- Free trade is strongly associated with FDR (progressive) and then both parties andym Dec 2016 #19
Complete nonsense portlander23 Dec 2016 #22
You obviously didn't read the article or much else on the history of free trade andym Dec 2016 #32
Anyone who believed what Trump was saying mcar Dec 2016 #10
The wake-up call here ... NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #11
I know he lost me at "rhetorical left" anyway ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #40
Not Your Grandmothers Wisconsin elleng Dec 2016 #12
Suggestion: you might want to put quotation marks around your thread title. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #16
An earlier article about Rebecca Theoni... SidDithers Dec 2016 #24
No words for this kind of idiocy mcar Dec 2016 #29
Wow. Democracy is dead. "He explains it in layman's terms." lostnfound Dec 2016 #41
I remember the many TPP threads here. mia Dec 2016 #26
Idiots MFM008 Dec 2016 #27
Nancy will take care of it. coco22 Dec 2016 #39
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