2016 Postmortem

Tatiana

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22. That is why I still have not so great feelings about Biden to this day.

Mon Dec 5, 2016, 01:27 AM

Dec 2016

I personally will never get over how shamefully he treated Anita Hill.

That being said, white folks love them some Joe Biden. Even the redneck teachers I have worked with who hate Obama like Biden. Hell, the fact that he actually helped Uncle Thomas get on the court probably makes him look good in a lot of those "white working class" folks' eyes.

And more people who supported Obama would have come out to vote for him. It's a fact that some (yes, racist) white people voted for Obama in 2008 and/or 2012, but didn't vote for Hillary this election (especially in Michigan and Ohio). Many people have offered explanations why, but I think the reason is simple. Those people who voted for Obama prioritized their economic calamity over their prejudice. Once the folk in Kentucky got their Obamacare and some in Michigan found that American auto corporations didn't die, then it was a little safer to fall back on their tribalism. Sure, there are some that are worse off, but by and large those who unexpectedly voted for Trump were white and middle to upper class. That's Joe Biden's bread and butter.

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If President Obama could have ran for a third term would he have defeated Donald Trump? [View all] ZM90 Dec 2016 OP

yes Afromania Dec 2016 #1

Yes MFM008 Dec 2016 #2

yes Doreen Dec 2016 #3

He would have CRUSHED him like the cockroach that he is. n/t MANative Dec 2016 #4

It would have been ugly.... nevergiveup Dec 2016 #5

of course jodymarie aimee Dec 2016 #6

This is an interesting question. And the answer explains what many of us have been saying EffieBlack Dec 2016 #7

Considering how vital this election was DK504 Dec 2016 #10

A lot of black voters tried to vote but were blocked. And many more actually DID vote, but their EffieBlack Dec 2016 #14

Everybody was saying Hillary had it "in the bag"... BlueProgressive Dec 2016 #23

Hillary and Obama are different types of candidates. Obama can motivate the base. Exilednight Dec 2016 #20

Yes BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #8

Yes, hands down. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2016 #9

Absolutely Obama would win. Vinca Dec 2016 #11

Of course. Tatiana Dec 2016 #12

I'm not too sure about that. Lots of baggage EffieBlack Dec 2016 #15

That is why I still have not so great feelings about Biden to this day. Tatiana Dec 2016 #22

Yup. Biden had high positives andym Dec 2016 #17

Even if he could have run for a third term, would he have? DavidDvorkin Dec 2016 #13

I think he would have, with the wild card moonscape Dec 2016 #18

That's a good point. DavidDvorkin Dec 2016 #19

Yes-- in a landslide andym Dec 2016 #16

No. Russia rigged the election and you guys are letting them get away with it. nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #21

I'd like to think he would have crushed that lying cockroach Cha Dec 2016 #24