2016 Postmortem

Garrett78

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3. There can be no doubt Clinton has been victimized by decades' worth of hate.

Mon Dec 5, 2016, 03:15 PM

Dec 2016

It's less the message and more the messenger. Not to mention the unprecedented FBI interference. And voter suppression, which became much easier following the 2013 Shelby County v. Holder decision.

That's not to say there aren't things the Dems should do differently. Obama was probably right to suggest the Clinton campaign should have done more to minimize the losses in the rural areas of purple states, so as to carry more of those states. There are rural Dems (not all of whom are white) in states like Iowa. And I would hope the 2020 ticket is younger.

But the crux of the WCW/economic messaging narrative is and always has been ridiculous. It crumbles under the weight of critical thought.

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Youth, yes. Organized labor, yes. Rural Dem outreach, yes. But enough with the WCW narrative. [View all] Garrett78 Dec 2016 OP

Damn right. Thank you for making this important point! K&R n/t CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2016 #1

From what I can tell, WCW Obama voters stayed home (or were voter suppressed?) forjusticethunders Dec 2016 #2

There can be no doubt Clinton has been victimized by decades' worth of hate. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #3

Sorry. That lacks key data points FBaggins Dec 2016 #4

Of course Clinton wasn't as strong a candidate as Obama. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #5

That appears to dodge the question FBaggins Dec 2016 #6

I addressed why that might be (as have others). Read my last post again. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #7

I see you saying that you've addressed it... but I still don't see it. FBaggins Dec 2016 #8

I specifically listed a handful of reasons why Clinton didn't do as well as Obama. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #10

Trick Answer zipplewrath Dec 2016 #9