2016 Postmortem

ghostsinthemachine

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102. Oh please,

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 02:22 PM

Dec 2016

I'm as Democratic as it gets and I heard this over and over again. I remember posting and hearing the same thing, yet it was a factor for a lot of people.

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Things I Blame For Hillary Clintons Loss, Ranked (Huff Po) [View all] Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 OP

more in the link/article... Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #1

I particularly like the responses at the website! Just look at the top 11 - FourScore Dec 2016 #91

Sounds like it's worth reading for the comments anyway. Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #121

So.....1-200 is basically MISOGYNY. nt LexVegas Dec 2016 #2

Those are just excerpts... more in the article... Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #3

200. BERNIE SANDERS Cha Dec 2016 #4

... LexVegas Dec 2016 #8

Aloha, Lex Cha Dec 2016 #9

On one hand GummyBearz Dec 2016 #14

How About A Little Payback Me. Dec 2016 #27

Payback for the most liked politician on the left? Ace Rothstein Dec 2016 #28

If He Was So LIked Me. Dec 2016 #64

Another creative, though unsupported allegation. LanternWaste Dec 2016 #115

Yes, no one can prove that not badmouthing and smearing Democrats is a good idea Cary Dec 2016 #120

I'm pretty sure there are rules... GummyBearz Dec 2016 #39

The First Rule Is Me. Dec 2016 #70

Ok GummyBearz Dec 2016 #74

That sounds like something Trump would do. padfun Dec 2016 #44

"being allowed"? Goblinmonger Dec 2016 #61

Except For Being A Dem Of Convenience Me. Dec 2016 #63

Please indicate the specific requirement he didn't meet. Goblinmonger Dec 2016 #67

He Couldn't Have Run Unless They Allowed Him To Me. Dec 2016 #79

No doubt he met all the requirements.... LanternWaste Dec 2016 #116

what kind of payback are we talking about? RazBerryBeret Dec 2016 #122

A Genuine Effort To Defeat Rump Me. Dec 2016 #124

some feel that he went above and beyond his "payback". RazBerryBeret Dec 2016 #125

Way Too Easy For BS Supporters Me. Dec 2016 #131

If one is not a Democrat, why should one run as a Democrat? treestar Dec 2016 #133

Because he holds democratic values GummyBearz Dec 2016 #136

Young people, as a percentage, voted for Clinton in higher percentages than did ProfessorPlum Dec 2016 #17

Hillary Clinton (Group). yallerdawg Dec 2016 #31

It was real obvious. Cha Dec 2016 #32

Show me ONE TIME where he called her corrupt. FourScore Dec 2016 #40

Sanders wasn't the problem, it was many of his supporters who did call her corrupt right here and Hoyt Dec 2016 #76

He used all kinds of nasty innuendo to suggest just that. JTFrog Dec 2016 #100

Examples? REAL examples. n/t FourScore Dec 2016 #111

Seriously? I'll just start with this one. JTFrog Dec 2016 #123

Using a narrative and using a word are two different concepts. Learn, please. LanternWaste Dec 2016 #117

Yes, are you happy? you pissed me off. mountain grammy Dec 2016 #43

Oh I think I can fistbump if I want to.. I wasn't talking to you. I was Cha Dec 2016 #52

If that's what makes you happy these days mountain grammy Dec 2016 #62

Meh Lithos Dec 2016 #47

You've absolutely nailed it. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2016 #51

+1000 to #6. HughBeaumont Dec 2016 #57

And LittleGirl Dec 2016 #68

I think we'll be talking about this long after 2020 INdemo Dec 2016 #56

When will people realize hillary is less than 1% beind Obama's 2012 results? lunamagica Dec 2016 #77

Yes! This is an important qualifier! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #90

When will you realize how the electoral college works? GummyBearz Dec 2016 #114

Rewriting history? Omaha Steve Dec 2016 #59

. George II Dec 2016 #75

Agreed. And even at her nominating Convention he continued with the blackmail and running his own politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2016 #86

Yup. murielm99 Dec 2016 #132

I also blame Sanders and will never support him or his supporters Gothmog Dec 2016 #138

I just blame the people who didn't vote for her. TreasonousBastard Dec 2016 #5

that could be the 2020 campaign slogan 'vote for me, or you're to blame' NRQ891 Dec 2016 #60

'Because seriously, fu*k that.' NRQ891 Dec 2016 #6

Never went to Wisconsin during the GE exboyfil Dec 2016 #7

"Never went to Wisconsin" TwilightZone Dec 2016 #10

Those include surrogates exboyfil Dec 2016 #13

Thanks. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #18

How will history books view Comey? exboyfil Dec 2016 #25

I'm not sure, though I tend to agree. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #97

Ranking Sanders higher than President Obama, who handed her her first loss? Orsino Dec 2016 #11

...and who also appointed James Comey. vi5 Dec 2016 #65

Well, she was extremely popular as Secretary of State. She had some pretty amazing poll numbers StevieM Dec 2016 #96

I'm with you apcalc Dec 2016 #12

What a stupid "article". Ace Rothstein Dec 2016 #15

Great post...and I agree competely. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #16

I agree with everything in this OP hueymahl Dec 2016 #19

Think you are proving the OP! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #21

Hahahahaha! You are exhibit numero uno! Thank you! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #22

So, You are claiming I am a mysogonist? hueymahl Dec 2016 #24

Woah! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #26

We have a simple sayin.' yallerdawg Dec 2016 #34

Here's another one hueymahl Dec 2016 #92

Hey. yallerdawg Dec 2016 #93

Yep. And if you notice, the whole question of misogyny is not being discussed all that much. Squinch Dec 2016 #20

The vitriolic Hate & utter disrespect towards HRC made no sense! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #30

What I have a hard time with, WRT Misogny- Ghost OF Trotsky Dec 2016 #73

I do think that there is more misogyny of a certain sort in parts of America than in England LeftishBrit Dec 2016 #83

Great points, thanks Ghost OF Trotsky Dec 2016 #94

Hostility toward women was one of the strongest predictors of a Trump vote. So apparently, yes. Squinch Dec 2016 #110

Thanks for the link Ghost OF Trotsky Dec 2016 #139

The media should rank very high here. A competitive primary is a lame reason. Lucky Luciano Dec 2016 #23

+1 dae Dec 2016 #29

Hillary didn't lose becasue she was a woman. Gore1FL Dec 2016 #33

Clinton a dynasty! Lol! Easy thing to say, non? Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #36

People are sick at having the same families be president. The Clintons are annoying. Gore1FL Dec 2016 #38

Generalize much? Many of us Dems like the Clintons! Both Bill and Hill! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #41

Apparently not enough of us. Gore1FL Dec 2016 #72

Everyone, both sides, do identity politics underpants Dec 2016 #35

Great article, thanks. George II Dec 2016 #37

Seems many are proving the points in the Article! The weird hate towards HRC seems based Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #42

Yeah, too bad we have to go through the damn primary Cha Dec 2016 #46

You need to get out more n/t ejbr Dec 2016 #49

??? Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #55

Please don't concern yourself with me. Cha Dec 2016 #58

Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat and hurt Clinton Gothmog Dec 2016 #45

"not a democrat" doesn't mean anything by itself. You want it to, but it doesn't. nt JCanete Dec 2016 #89

You are so very wrong. Gothmog Dec 2016 #127

What is a democrat then may I ask? Was Lieberman a Democrat? JCanete Dec 2016 #129

Nobody defeated Clinton but those that stole the election! n/t tom_kelly Dec 2016 #48

K&R mcar Dec 2016 #50

Misogeny Racism? Hardly. Indydem Dec 2016 #53

Honestly the voters who stayed home should be number 1 yeoman6987 Dec 2016 #54

We live in a free society. Part of that is allowing people to decide Exilednight Dec 2016 #84

Several "free societies" have compulsory voting. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #98

Are you willing to include a vote of no confidence on the ballot? Exilednight Dec 2016 #108

K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Dec 2016 #66

Misogyny #1-199 is spot on! That's is why She did so well with women voters. jmg257 Dec 2016 #69

i rank sanders much lower on that list. I rank Comey much higher. nt La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #71

Bill Clintons penis certainly shares the blame ghostsinthemachine Dec 2016 #78

My my, that argument sounds familiar! NastyRiffraff Dec 2016 #99

yes it does sound familar and it was a factor, i heard often dembotoz Dec 2016 #101

Oh please, ghostsinthemachine Dec 2016 #102

You "heard it over and over again" NastyRiffraff Dec 2016 #103

No, from Democrats. ghostsinthemachine Dec 2016 #130

There is no denying that there are sexist Democrats. JTFrog Dec 2016 #135

Oh STATE WORKERS are peddling this! NastyRiffraff Dec 2016 #137

Sorry, doesn't work for me angrychair Dec 2016 #80

It was stupid to nominate MrsNAFTA /PNTR-China Dems to Win Dec 2016 #81

Damn that Bernie Sanders RazBerryBeret Dec 2016 #82

plus 1 red dog 1 Dec 2016 #119

"Enough with the emails!" - Bernie Sanders MadamPresident Dec 2016 #85

YES! Lets keep it going people! One thing that is not going to die, while there is still a DNC JCanete Dec 2016 #87

WHAT?!!11 Bernie is supposed to be 1-1000 reasons why!!1! progressoid Dec 2016 #88

Good news is that HRC won female Independents! Woohoo! Males Independt? Not so much! Trumpo did! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #95

#1 should be incompetence of HRC as a candidatae Larkspur Dec 2016 #104

Don't think of HRC as incompetent at all! See her as brilliant, competent, knowledgeable, Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #106

plus 1 red dog 1 Dec 2016 #118

Any *one* of the following could have been the difference between winning and losing: Garrett78 Dec 2016 #105

Please proceed with blaming literally the most popular Politician in the United States. n/t yodermon Dec 2016 #107

Most popular politician award winner!!! ever!!! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #109

Wow - so Bernie should have been the nominee? No misogyny, no "Sanders" no Comey, No DNC Emails, jmg257 Dec 2016 #112

I read this on HuffPo. A good list. Much better than those very short ones.. Nitram Dec 2016 #113

K&R CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #126

But, But,... The River Dec 2016 #128

K&R ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #134