2016 Postmortem

TheKentuckian

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72. They were offered vapor ware with no estimated time of resolution

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 03:00 PM

Dec 2016

So, the only "real" offer was take your ass to school, pile up some debt to carry you into retirement age for a job that doesn't exist and may never exist before being outsources or automated and may never replace the lost pay and benefits even if it does.

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What does the white working class want? [View all] JHan Dec 2016 OP

As LBJ said... nycbos Dec 2016 #1

Indeed. So, the vote was for White Male Identity Politics. WhiteTara Dec 2016 #3

Not to beat a dead horse Uponthegears Dec 2016 #2

Jobs elleng Dec 2016 #4

Not just any jobs though. Jobs they don't have to re-train for. In this election they rejected ooky Dec 2016 #67

They were offered vapor ware with no estimated time of resolution TheKentuckian Dec 2016 #72

That's the current plan. Its called ooky Dec 2016 #74

The ones that voted for Trump want certain groups of people to go away JI7 Dec 2016 #5

Calling rural voters in the Rust Belt racist wont get them to vote for you davidn3600 Dec 2016 #6

I'm calling those in suburbs cities etc racist also JI7 Dec 2016 #7

Calling millions of people you don't even know racists is ignorant NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #13

lol. i know they voted for trump. you sure have no problem judging mr JI7 Dec 2016 #14

Interesting, isn't it? EffieBlack Dec 2016 #20

it really is something. somehow the trump voters are made into victims JI7 Dec 2016 #30

Then call HIM a bigot because he IS one. NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #21

Kind of naive to think Trump voters wouldn't insist on pulling the party to the right brush Dec 2016 #29

Either you call them bigots or recognize they had no problem voting for a bigoted platform.. JHan Dec 2016 #37

Have you ever been to an economically devastated rural area? NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #41

I know people struggling to make ends meet yes. JHan Dec 2016 #42

So you know every struggling person in the rust belt? NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #51

As for Clinton "ignoring" people... JHan Dec 2016 #43

Where did I say Clinton specifically? I was talking about long term ignoring NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #52

You're missing the point DemonGoddess Dec 2016 #39

I know full well what racism IS and what it's NOT NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #45

I don't understand.. JHan Dec 2016 #44

If you think it's defensiveness then you aren't paying attention NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #53

I never said they were all racists: JHan Dec 2016 #56

You actually responded to my reply to someone else NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #64

How do you reconcile your view with this: JHan Dec 2016 #9

On average, voters who said the economy was most important preferred Clinton by 7.3 Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #24

Hopefully repeating it makes it stick :P JHan Dec 2016 #34

Hoping it makes it important as in READ THIS! What does it tell you? Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #50

That still leaves an appreciable minority that didn't. TheKentuckian Dec 2016 #73

Poor rural white jack69 Dec 2016 #11

No, they actually haven't been NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #15

Remind me who governs these rural districts at the local level... JHan Dec 2016 #38

Great points, which will be entirely ignored by Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2016 #49

Those states and districts voted for Obama twice for change and gave him a chance NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #54

ask them what they think of blm JI7 Dec 2016 #16

Come on now. Don't be mean JI7 ... LenaBaby61 Dec 2016 #32

Agree ... with the above Kathy M Dec 2016 #18

In the end, NAFTA did not cause the decline... Adrahil Dec 2016 #58

I agree with you ...... Change was going to happen ... There has been other change Kathy M Dec 2016 #65

Cheers! NT Adrahil Dec 2016 #66

A lot of those folks just want someone to lie to them. Adrahil Dec 2016 #57

Many want Democrats in power. Others want the 1950s. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #8

Well said jack69 Dec 2016 #10

Krugman gets it mcar Dec 2016 #12

We will never get anybody back if the corporations continue to control the message. Focusing on what JCanete Dec 2016 #17

Yeah I get that.. JHan Dec 2016 #31

But you can't say that when it counts, those lauded journalistic institutions haven't let us down. JCanete Dec 2016 #40

Look to Maslow's hierarchy of needs DeminPennswoods Dec 2016 #19

Your post reminds me.. JHan Dec 2016 #33

That's right. We're in that range where politics are all about playing on the limbic response. JCanete Dec 2016 #46

very simple - it wants to stop being thrown under the bus nt NRQ891 Dec 2016 #22

Am sure Trump will give to them all they want!!!! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #23

Anyone notice that it's always "white working class" instead of just "working class?" Garrett78 Dec 2016 #25

thanks, great observations ( i concur) JHan Dec 2016 #35

Evidently the WWC wants to ignore reality and burn down America while being as bigoted as possible LonePirate Dec 2016 #26

My father passed away a bit over a year ago Kilgore Dec 2016 #27

That ignores the very real issue of automation. Adrahil Dec 2016 #59

400 is better than zero. Kilgore Dec 2016 #61

While that's true..... Adrahil Dec 2016 #62

a sandwich that doesn't fall apart even when slathered with condiments? Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #28

lol lol lol ..... JHan Dec 2016 #36

Holy shit, if Trump had said he would deliver on that second one I might have voted for him. JCanete Dec 2016 #47

I predict that, over the next 4 years, movies are only going to get worse. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #48

Too many want to be lied to....they want to hear we can return to an beachbum bob Dec 2016 #55

For too many of them, it's this, for people who they don't like. forjusticethunders Dec 2016 #60

the same thing the black and brown working class wants gejohnston Dec 2016 #63

The answer is the free market LisiFFXV Dec 2016 #68

Not being told to go screw themselves? jfern Dec 2016 #69

Someone to look down on, same as Trump. n/t Orsino Dec 2016 #70

Living wages and the ability to put their children through college. PassingFair Dec 2016 #71