2016 Postmortem

barbtries

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51. and it was THEIR messaging.

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 07:17 PM

Dec 2016

30 plus years of bullshit piled higher, higher and higher. hate radio. control of the media, fox fucking news. fear fear fear and bullshit.

a dear friend's son is the same way as your cousin. i have to delete nearly every comment he puts on my fb because i won't have him shitting on my rug so to speak, but since i am so close to his mother and have known him since he was born, i haven't blocked him. i have tried to reason with him but it was beyond useless.

it's like they cannot even think really. this shit about 3 million illegal votes in CA - it's absurd on its face, but these people believe it. A child sex ring run by Hillary out of a pizza parlor in DC - outlandishly ridiculous! omigawd, and people believe it.

i don't fucking know how to combat this, i really don't. the republicans have made huge strides toward destroying the country, and i really do not know if it can be saved. what i do know is i will resist to the very end.

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My dearest cousin has Trumpgrets over his vote for Trump [View all] bravenak Dec 2016 OP

Your cousin sounds like a peach O_o JHan Dec 2016 #1

Oh he is bravenak Dec 2016 #2

"They must feel the pain", otherwise we're enabling the addiction. They have to "hit bottom" SharonAnn Dec 2016 #81

That is pretty much all we can do bravenak Dec 2016 #85

This is why Trump's election didn't depress me like it did many folks. stevenleser Dec 2016 #93

I agree. I feel more positive these days bravenak Dec 2016 #94

You said a mouth full when you said stevenleser Dec 2016 #95

Yes! We will be on offense... david4justice49 Dec 2016 #132

And when they interview Trump supporters, they whine, Please, Dems, give him a chance!! adigal Dec 2016 #153

Oh yes. bravenak Dec 2016 #145

Now the GOP in the Senate are asking Democrats TrishaJ Dec 2016 #146

Fuck them and fuck anybody that helps bravenak Dec 2016 #147

Wait, wait, wait. Whatthe_Firetruck Dec 2016 #101

That's exactly it. nt stevenleser Dec 2016 #119

8 years, no way zippythepinhead Dec 2016 #102

I'm inclined to agree with you. It depends on a couple of things. stevenleser Dec 2016 #126

Yup. Less than two years until impeachment for corruption, imo. Oneironaut Dec 2016 #137

Less than 1 year. Enter President Pence. Missn-Hitch Dec 2016 #141

I would agree with you were it not for climate change. femmedem Dec 2016 #107

Similar to what I said to the poster below, if we had a different choice, I would certainly make it. stevenleser Dec 2016 #122

Bully for you that you can afford lessons. Some of us may die in the process robbedvoter Dec 2016 #117

Your rant would mean something if we actually had a choice. Since we don't it's meaningless. nt stevenleser Dec 2016 #120

Steve, I would be more sympathetic to your point if it weren't Trump in the White House. Oneironaut Dec 2016 #129

That's the point though isn't it? If 'W' wasn't enough to drive the point home, something worse is stevenleser Dec 2016 #130

I believe that a certain segment will never learn their lesson. Oneironaut Dec 2016 #135

There is no question about that. The question is, how many can we peel away. stevenleser Dec 2016 #138

I'm inclined to think though meadowlander Dec 2016 #139

I hear you. See my #138 above. stevenleser Dec 2016 #140

"they" are not just Trump voters. A lot of democrats - not you, obviously- robbedvoter Dec 2016 #118

Again, your rant is misplaced. Save it for those who voted Trump, not those of us trying to stevenleser Dec 2016 #121

Seems we share the same sentiments. I preface my comments with, Missn-Hitch Dec 2016 #144

Yes, and look, I understand commenter robbedvoter's anger and fear but it is misdirected stevenleser Dec 2016 #149

I hear ya. Cheers. Missn-Hitch Dec 2016 #150

There are some we'll never get through to, regardless of our message. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #3

I think you might be right bravenak Dec 2016 #9

His refusal to learn even the basics is a little bizarre. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #18

He absolutely doesn't want... 3catwoman3 Dec 2016 #39

I thought he probably wanted to lose the race and win the popular vote so he could milk it... TwilightZone Dec 2016 #42

Yes and he already triron Dec 2016 #44

And so did Mitch Fucking McConnell, which is... 3catwoman3 Dec 2016 #50

never thought of that...maybe triron Dec 2016 #55

yes of course he did. lonestarnot Dec 2016 #96

Trump wants to continue those "Victory Tour" rallies indefinitely. No Vested Interest Dec 2016 #104

it isn't "some" Cosmocat Dec 2016 #112

Just like the white seniors who demanded that the Government stay away from "their" Medicare. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #4

others, never at all. barbtries Dec 2016 #73

Well, as Lincoln is said to have observed, guillaumeb Dec 2016 #125

he was right. barbtries Dec 2016 #128

Let's hope your cousin will mull over what you have said democrank Dec 2016 #5

I wish he had ever had senses to come back to. Lifelong stupid is the worst kind bravenak Dec 2016 #6

And we now have a nation about to live in despair, with all respect, because of damn fools like RKP5637 Dec 2016 #7

Honestly? He never realizes anything until it might harm him bravenak Dec 2016 #12

It's bad enough to deal with this outside of ones family, but when in the family it's RKP5637 Dec 2016 #16

He is very stressed out bravenak Dec 2016 #22

It seems it should help some, hopefully. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2016 #28

I thought you said that Trump supporters were all racists that we shouldn't waste our time on Renew Deal Dec 2016 #8

He is racist. But I'm related to him so I get to shame him in person bravenak Dec 2016 #10

lol Renew Deal Dec 2016 #11

impressed that he's at least seeing it clearly now, not just blaming Obama for reasons... 0rganism Dec 2016 #13

I think he might hate Trump now. It's funny as hell bravenak Dec 2016 #27

This is the cousin you had to feed the other day? Maybe, just maybe... TreasonousBastard Dec 2016 #14

Same one. bravenak Dec 2016 #23

That must be sweet - at least for a moment. Chemisse Dec 2016 #30

I enjoy it bravenak Dec 2016 #32

You don't waste your time with them. Liberal Veteran Dec 2016 #15

Well said!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2016 #17

Yeah, I am just trying to help him understand that this is all his own dumb fault bravenak Dec 2016 #25

Trump is going to give us unique opportunities to reach out to people stevenleser Dec 2016 #97

His phone isn't an Obama phone. coco22 Dec 2016 #19

Please do not tell him that bravenak Dec 2016 #26

He's got no one to blame but himself C_U_L8R Dec 2016 #20

"Trumpgrets" J_William_Ryan Dec 2016 #21

Let's make sure to bring how much he sucks up often. bravenak Dec 2016 #29

K&R CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #24

On a minor positive note, your OP reminded me of ... Persondem Dec 2016 #31

That was pretty funny bravenak Dec 2016 #33

So sorry you have a relative who is a knucklehead. Didn't he realize that Obama wasn't running? catbyte Dec 2016 #34

Obama was totally on the ballot for him regardless of reality bravenak Dec 2016 #53

ACA. SS. Medicare. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #35

Sheshe, sick as it makes me, I fear you are right. classof56 Dec 2016 #52

Hey class, sheshe2 Dec 2016 #75

Ah, thank you so much! classof56 Dec 2016 #157

I am so very mad at certain of my family members bravenak Dec 2016 #87

I am so sorry honey... sheshe2 Dec 2016 #90

everyone who voted for trumpfuhrer heaven05 Dec 2016 #142

I know heaven. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #161

I'm sure a lot of voters who said they were tired of Republicans after Bush II C Moon Dec 2016 #36

Poor fellow! Why don't you serve him a plate of Schadenfreude chicken. nt Xipe Totec Dec 2016 #37

Your cousin should have listened to you, BUT..... LisaM Dec 2016 #38

That was straight up garbage the way those emails dominated bravenak Dec 2016 #58

What do we say about addict? Only until someone its rock bottom are they open to help Feeling the Bern Dec 2016 #40

Lets hope so bravenak Dec 2016 #67

Minority trump supporter that isn't a trust fund baby. Like Jews for Hitler. Feeling the Bern Dec 2016 #82

Absolutely. I told him he wants Massa back bravenak Dec 2016 #86

Old Men rawhideal Dec 2016 #41

A number of trumpsters are having trumpgrets Gothmog Dec 2016 #43

Too bad they screwed it up for us too bravenak Dec 2016 #69

Tell your cousin .... flying-skeleton Dec 2016 #45

Trumpsters OWN this one. ffr Dec 2016 #46

Tell him that he will get exactly what he deserves, but you don't deserve it. world wide wally Dec 2016 #47

I did. Felt good too bravenak Dec 2016 #68

For the life of me,I do not understand people like your cousin amuse bouche Dec 2016 #48

I can't help feeling sorry for people like your cousin. johnp3907 Dec 2016 #49

and it was THEIR messaging. barbtries Dec 2016 #51

I know. How to combat propaganda in real time bravenak Dec 2016 #61

constantly barbtries Dec 2016 #71

My apologies, but, your dearest cousin is a dipshit. Downtown Hound Dec 2016 #54

I want to say he deserves it bravenak Dec 2016 #57

If that what it takes to wake these morons up, then yes Downtown Hound Dec 2016 #60

I am... berksdem Dec 2016 #123

Reminds of when I was working with for the FEDs in 2006 and Bush instituted a Reduction in Force. kairos12 Dec 2016 #56

Birthers aren't reachable vlakitti Dec 2016 #59

Right? Nothing we could ever say would work. Waste of time bravenak Dec 2016 #62

I dunno vlakitti Dec 2016 #79

We cannot craft a message for them mcar Dec 2016 #63

Yep bravenak Dec 2016 #65

Does he still get Xmas card?? benld74 Dec 2016 #64

No. I'm athiest thank goodness bravenak Dec 2016 #66

I have a cousin like yours. Granny M Dec 2016 #70

It was so frustrating to read facebook posts that I refuse to log in bravenak Dec 2016 #72

I think that right now he is so confused that he's not sure... Stellar Dec 2016 #74

When reality crashes into... Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #76

Guess you'd better tell your cousin to pull himself up by his bootstraps. It's the GOP way. Vinca Dec 2016 #77

2016 election Lamonte Dec 2016 #78

My misled mother Johnny2X2X Dec 2016 #80

I hope that millions of Trump supporters will have their Day of Reckoning as did your cousin. kstewart33 Dec 2016 #83

I hope they do each and every one of them feel this feeling he is feeling bravenak Dec 2016 #88

Swindled many a good man Dec 2016 #84

I want him to keep feeling bad so he never ever does anything this stupid again bravenak Dec 2016 #89

He voted for it he deserves it. Doreen Dec 2016 #91

"Pit of Anger." Bohunk68 Dec 2016 #108

Has he not been paying attention awoke_in_2003 Dec 2016 #92

Idk blue cat Dec 2016 #98

Elections have consequences and he will feel the pain... Historic NY Dec 2016 #99

They can do it, but they probably won't. Shoonra Dec 2016 #100

take heart zippythepinhead Dec 2016 #103

I don't understand how anyone could not see this coming True_Blue Dec 2016 #105

Just tell your cuz that trump is the ultimate con man and he's the sucker Sucker's get fleeced when TeamPooka Dec 2016 #106

Regrets? Already? Patsy Gomez Dec 2016 #109

To the extent Trump was "elected," even after losing by 2 million votes, it is a triumph of the... NNadir Dec 2016 #110

The answer Coolest Ranger Dec 2016 #111

Those who have Trumpgrets made their beds, now they need to sleep in them. muntrv Dec 2016 #113

The toxic combination of Obama Derangement Syndrome and voting against one's own best interest. Snarkoleptic Dec 2016 #114

Sorry for your cousin LittleGirl Dec 2016 #115

Any decision made based on hatred - not just politics - is bound to be a bad one robbedvoter Dec 2016 #116

Tell him maybe he can get a job as a servant to the 1% who lunatica Dec 2016 #124

"This is what hate does to the mind. It makes people stupid. " sfwriter Dec 2016 #127

Boo-hoo hatrack Dec 2016 #131

"That's what hate does to the mind. It makes people stupid." CanonRay Dec 2016 #133

Talking calmly to your cousin for an hour on holidays... Orsino Dec 2016 #134

exactly heaven05 Dec 2016 #136

What pisses me off Turin_C3PO Dec 2016 #143

the only argument for sympathy DonCoquixote Dec 2016 #148

This is exactly what the trumpsters voted for Lebam in LA Dec 2016 #151

I think this is the right way to handle things bravenak Dec 2016 #152

exactly right Lebam in LA Dec 2016 #156

you can not fix ones that do not want to think Angry Dragon Dec 2016 #154

The only message these idjits understand.... lastlib Dec 2016 #155

Lawd have mercy Chitown Kev Dec 2016 #158

He is driving me crazy right now bravenak Dec 2016 #159

and you buy his groceries? Chitown Kev Dec 2016 #160

And he would be too stupid to understand a word you say bravenak Dec 2016 #162