2016 Postmortem

Vinca

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17. Nobody is writing them off, but as the old saying says you can lead a horse to water . . .

Thu Dec 8, 2016, 03:26 PM

Dec 2016

If people are not interested enough in their own futures to read about issues and candidates and only follow their piss poor "gut" instinct, what are Democrats supposed to do? It won't matter if we suddenly become the best friends of the rust belt if they refuse to turn off Alex Jones and Rush Limbaugh and listen.

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To just write off white working class folks or ANY group ANYWHERE is STUPID. Here is why: [View all] RBInMaine Dec 2016 OP

Yup.... sfwriter Dec 2016 #1

One of the best post-election opinions posted here so far. Thank you. democrank Dec 2016 #2

no, just ignorant Afromania Dec 2016 #11

I don't think Democrats wrote them off. This comes down to the hostile dynamics of the primary. R B Garr Dec 2016 #3

Yep, all bernies fault. LOL hueymahl Dec 2016 #5

LOL, your snide comment shows you aren't too concerned about a Trump R B Garr Dec 2016 #8

It is like people are literally wearing blinders hueymahl Dec 2016 #10

Yes you are wearing blinders. The numbered posts showed you attacked me. R B Garr Dec 2016 #12

There is lots of blame to go around hueymahl Dec 2016 #15

Okay. Yes, any campaign that doesn't get 100% of the vote can analyze R B Garr Dec 2016 #18

We agree more than we disagree hueymahl Dec 2016 #21

This sounds very doable and reasonable. R B Garr Dec 2016 #24

I agree. How else to go from Obama to Trump? treestar Dec 2016 #7

Yup, Trump being a con man, saw a chance to con them even more R B Garr Dec 2016 #9

Great Analysis. Thanks. hueymahl Dec 2016 #4

Strawman, few are writing them off just not go to coddle them with denigrating minorities ... uponit7771 Dec 2016 #6

exactly. Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #30

I refuse to coddle any Trump supporter or voter. leftofcool Dec 2016 #32

Rural and rust belt working class voters are not interested in our realistic jobs plans. LonePirate Dec 2016 #13

maybe, maybe not sweetapogee Dec 2016 #14

No, they will never shut up about their racist resentment of "urbanites" because facts don't matter Coventina Dec 2016 #16

Baloney, blue states pay red welfare. Except for kids I wish we could stop subsidizing them. bettyellen Dec 2016 #20

well then sweetapogee Dec 2016 #28

Just correcting your nonsense about red states not benefiting from our blue taxes.... bettyellen Dec 2016 #31

not worried sweetapogee Dec 2016 #35

Nobody is writing them off, but as the old saying says you can lead a horse to water . . . Vinca Dec 2016 #17

Exactly! leftofcool Dec 2016 #33

No, people who cared about economics first went for Hillary. Trump won on terrorism and immigration. bettyellen Dec 2016 #19

Misreading the data realmirage Dec 2016 #22

Trumps racism motivated apathetic voters more than any economic message did... bettyellen Dec 2016 #23

That is exactly correct! leftofcool Dec 2016 #34

yup. it was minorities who were attacked in the campaign JI7 Dec 2016 #37

It's so twisted, but the media went out of their way to normalize the hatred and bettyellen Dec 2016 #38

I think you're wrong - look at the NACO county map Yo_Mama Dec 2016 #40

This was links are to a search box. Polls in the rust belt said bettyellen Dec 2016 #42

I don't think so. Perhaps in more prosperous areas, yes, but voter Yo_Mama Dec 2016 #43

So Obama got black voters who never voted before and are not voting again.... bettyellen Dec 2016 #44

Let's just promise shit we cannot deliver n/t taught_me_patience Dec 2016 #25

Everything I'd say if I were as articulate as you :) jack_krass Dec 2016 #26

it mystifies me MFM008 Dec 2016 #27

straw man-- no one is writing them off. But check this out: Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #29

Write off the white working class? Why? Why even say it? jalan48 Dec 2016 #36

I have to agree. These people were a traditional Dem base, and there's no reason Yo_Mama Dec 2016 #39

There's not much evidence that the vote was mostly economic. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #41

K and r Dems to Win Dec 2016 #45