2016 Postmortem

R B Garr

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24. This sounds very doable and reasonable.

Thu Dec 8, 2016, 04:15 PM

Dec 2016

It looked like Hillary had Obama's legacy to run on, as well, so she adopted a lot of that which implied a continuation of policy. And some things Bernie focused on were not really her weaknesses, but more his own version of reality that he hammered and thereby created a weakness to exploit. Trump is a straight up con man, so any little crumb of discord he manipulated to his benefit, and the primary gave him the playbook to hurt her.

I liked your message, though. It sounds very reasonable.

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To just write off white working class folks or ANY group ANYWHERE is STUPID. Here is why: [View all] RBInMaine Dec 2016 OP

Yup.... sfwriter Dec 2016 #1

One of the best post-election opinions posted here so far. Thank you. democrank Dec 2016 #2

no, just ignorant Afromania Dec 2016 #11

I don't think Democrats wrote them off. This comes down to the hostile dynamics of the primary. R B Garr Dec 2016 #3

Yep, all bernies fault. LOL hueymahl Dec 2016 #5

LOL, your snide comment shows you aren't too concerned about a Trump R B Garr Dec 2016 #8

It is like people are literally wearing blinders hueymahl Dec 2016 #10

Yes you are wearing blinders. The numbered posts showed you attacked me. R B Garr Dec 2016 #12

There is lots of blame to go around hueymahl Dec 2016 #15

Okay. Yes, any campaign that doesn't get 100% of the vote can analyze R B Garr Dec 2016 #18

We agree more than we disagree hueymahl Dec 2016 #21

This sounds very doable and reasonable. R B Garr Dec 2016 #24

I agree. How else to go from Obama to Trump? treestar Dec 2016 #7

Yup, Trump being a con man, saw a chance to con them even more R B Garr Dec 2016 #9

Great Analysis. Thanks. hueymahl Dec 2016 #4

Strawman, few are writing them off just not go to coddle them with denigrating minorities ... uponit7771 Dec 2016 #6

exactly. Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #30

I refuse to coddle any Trump supporter or voter. leftofcool Dec 2016 #32

Rural and rust belt working class voters are not interested in our realistic jobs plans. LonePirate Dec 2016 #13

maybe, maybe not sweetapogee Dec 2016 #14

No, they will never shut up about their racist resentment of "urbanites" because facts don't matter Coventina Dec 2016 #16

Baloney, blue states pay red welfare. Except for kids I wish we could stop subsidizing them. bettyellen Dec 2016 #20

well then sweetapogee Dec 2016 #28

Just correcting your nonsense about red states not benefiting from our blue taxes.... bettyellen Dec 2016 #31

not worried sweetapogee Dec 2016 #35

Nobody is writing them off, but as the old saying says you can lead a horse to water . . . Vinca Dec 2016 #17

Exactly! leftofcool Dec 2016 #33

No, people who cared about economics first went for Hillary. Trump won on terrorism and immigration. bettyellen Dec 2016 #19

Misreading the data realmirage Dec 2016 #22

Trumps racism motivated apathetic voters more than any economic message did... bettyellen Dec 2016 #23

That is exactly correct! leftofcool Dec 2016 #34

yup. it was minorities who were attacked in the campaign JI7 Dec 2016 #37

It's so twisted, but the media went out of their way to normalize the hatred and bettyellen Dec 2016 #38

I think you're wrong - look at the NACO county map Yo_Mama Dec 2016 #40

This was links are to a search box. Polls in the rust belt said bettyellen Dec 2016 #42

I don't think so. Perhaps in more prosperous areas, yes, but voter Yo_Mama Dec 2016 #43

So Obama got black voters who never voted before and are not voting again.... bettyellen Dec 2016 #44

Let's just promise shit we cannot deliver n/t taught_me_patience Dec 2016 #25

Everything I'd say if I were as articulate as you :) jack_krass Dec 2016 #26

it mystifies me MFM008 Dec 2016 #27

straw man-- no one is writing them off. But check this out: Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #29

Write off the white working class? Why? Why even say it? jalan48 Dec 2016 #36

I have to agree. These people were a traditional Dem base, and there's no reason Yo_Mama Dec 2016 #39

There's not much evidence that the vote was mostly economic. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #41

K and r Dems to Win Dec 2016 #45