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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: I think Hillary really won MI, PA, WI, and FL but the GOP counts the vote [View all]spin
(17,493 posts)58. I disagree that the Republicans stole this election for this reason. ...
The Republican establishment was opposed to Trump as their Presidential candidate from the very beginning. Jeb Bush was their choice but Trump ran over him like a bulldozer.
The leadership of the Republican Party did everything they could to stop Trump before the Republican Convention and even after.
These Republicans were unable to stop Donald Trumps nomination. But theyre trying again.
By Ed O'Keefe August 7
Activists who were unable to block Donald Trump's presidential nomination are trying again, this time petitioning the Republican National Committee to call an emergency meeting to strip him of the nod.
Just like the group's months-long fight to stop Trump at the party convention, this latest attempt is likely to be a mostly symbolic act of defiance. Even though Trump is trailing Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton in polls, an overwhelming majority of Republicans still support him, and top party leaders are rejecting calls to find a new standard-bearer with fewer than 100 days until Election Day.
And yet, the mere fact that party activists are trying yet again to rid the party of Trump reflects widespread apprehension and mounting opposition to the nominee among Republicans. Current and former GOP lawmakers, former government officials, and top-flight party consultants have said they're leaving the party or will vote for someone else, given Trump's recent wave of words and deeds that have insulted or worried military families, foreign policy experts, Muslims -- even mothers with young crying babies.
Some of the former leaders of the movement that tried using party convention rules to snatch away the nomination and install another candidate said Sunday that they're reaching out to members of the RNC, which includes three representatives from each state, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico and territories, asking that they sign a petition calling for an emergency meeting that would lead to Trump's ouster.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/08/07/these-republicans-failed-to-stop-donald-trumps-nomination-now-theyre-trying-again/?utm_term=.400f4795c9
Some elected Republicans and VIP Republicans even said that they would vote for Hillary rather than Trump.
For what it is worth my opinion is that this was a change election as both Republican and Democratic voters felt the people they elected and sent to Washington DC had sold out and represented Big Money rather than their voters. They reached the point where they felt it was time to give both the Republican and Democratic Party the finger and elect a flame throwing candidate who would burn the establishment down.
Trump just happened to run at exactly the right time for a totally politically incorrect asshole to win. In any normal election year he would have failed right at the start of the primary races.
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I think Hillary really won MI, PA, WI, and FL but the GOP counts the vote [View all]
UCmeNdc
Dec 2016
OP
I agree with you. Where is the leader uniting all of the anticipated backlash against Hair Twitler?
lonestarnot
Dec 2016
#4
I agree, strategic election fraud in a number of swing states created this nightmare.
diane in sf
Dec 2016
#5
Surgically precise rigging required altering about 50,000 votes to make Trump win.
Coyotl
Dec 2016
#31
very true; they hacked this website at will, but there are those here who trust the machines. nt
TheFrenchRazor
Dec 2016
#65
If even the POSSIBILITY exist then that's bad enough, I don't except the false bar that there
uponit7771
Dec 2016
#22
true-- I keep forgetting that! They had a terrible Repub one for a while that stuck in my head
Fast Walker 52
Dec 2016
#37
.. and ignore Comey, Voter suppression and Russia... 3 DOCUMENTED factors in this election cause
uponit7771
Dec 2016
#21
NOT, tens of thousands of precincts. Votes are not counted at the precincts. Central tabiulators,
Coyotl
Dec 2016
#23
Some counties take uncounted ballots directly from the polling place to a central tabulator.
Coyotl
Dec 2016
#50
you don't have a clue whether the election results were accurate. nobody does; that's the problem.nt
TheFrenchRazor
Dec 2016
#66
And were the exit polls off by 5-12% in those states? Or the pre-election polls? Blue shifted?
Coyotl
Dec 2016
#27
I'm too busy telling fiery progressives that rally attendees don't necessarily
lapucelle
Dec 2016
#59
Apparently you don't remember Rove's meltdown on TV in 2012 when he realized his theft attempt . . .
brush
Dec 2016
#36
I recall that the SCOTUS stopped the recount in 2000. How is that Gore's fault?
politicaljunkie41910
Dec 2016
#40
all the more reason to ditch the EC and computer voting; failing that, secede. nt
TheFrenchRazor
Dec 2016
#64