2016 Postmortem

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38. Part of the problem Black Lives Matter has is that they protest some things that turn out

Sat Dec 10, 2016, 11:29 AM

Dec 2016

to not be an issue. Granted there is a good reason for that, in that the protest itself helps provide more of a transparent investigation, but investing all of that energy into the Michael Brown case when it turned out to be a legally justified shooting that didn't happen the way the original claims of Brown having his hands up associates them with the idea of them just being against white people. It's a variation of the Cassandra dilemma.

Likewise the genius in Seattle who protested Sanders and also wore a white people's tears shirt is needlessly divisive that furthers the idea that Black Lives Matters isn't actually about promoting a more equal society. I somehow can't imagine Dr King wearing that shirt. The problem with having a leaderless movement is that it's hard to disavow somebody who claims the mantle while acting like a petulant jackass.

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If a large group of blacks voted en masse for a black nationalist who preached hatred of whites [View all] EffieBlack Dec 2016 OP

Glad you made this point!!!! bravenak Dec 2016 #1

You don't think they'd buy the "they're not racist-they just liked his economic message?" argument? EffieBlack Dec 2016 #5

Of course not. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #8

old black people who lived through legalized segregation are treated horribly if they say anything JI7 Dec 2016 #2

Unbelievable, isn't it? EffieBlack Dec 2016 #6

Why does it need to be about race in the first place? If someone is an asshole then call them on it NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #9

we are talking about people who voted for Trump and there are people who defend them if they are JI7 Dec 2016 #10

Yes and there are many people on this forum with people they love who voted for Trump NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #14

they listened to Trump denigrate , demonize and slander people and VOTED TO MAKE HIM FUCKING JI7 Dec 2016 #15

Because Democrats failed them for too long NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #17

democrats failed them by supporting civil rights. explain why the fuck they didn't support feingold JI7 Dec 2016 #19

Then they are stupidly vengeful against their treestar Dec 2016 #58

They had no issues about voting for a racist True_Blue Dec 2016 #31

Sorry you have Nazi sympathizers in your family DoctorMyEyes Dec 2016 #53

Sounds like you desperately want to treestar Dec 2016 #57

Clinton won among the working class. She won among those for whom the top issue is the economy. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #12

Why does it need to be about race? Come on, this is America, it's always about race brush Dec 2016 #13

I've never seen so many people be so racially divisive as I am seeing here NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #20

You're probably right. There isn't much sympathy for Trump voters or those who defend them here. brush Dec 2016 #22

lol, shows how much you know about racism and what poc deal with all the fucking time. JI7 Dec 2016 #23

I know better than you know, thanks... NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #26

wow, you seem resentful towards minorities and with threats ....... JI7 Dec 2016 #27

You really think your shit doesn't stink, don't you? EffieBlack Dec 2016 #29

Wow... DoctorMyEyes Dec 2016 #54

LOL Chitown Kev Dec 2016 #25

If black people talking about our experience with race makes you so angry you won't vote Democratic EffieBlack Dec 2016 #28

Please don't confuse a message board for a party. Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #33

You don't belong here treestar Dec 2016 #59

K&R Hello and Thank You! lunasun Dec 2016 #3

We all know the answer to that question. But some will ignore or obfuscate your point. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #4

I might not like their choice but I would not stereotype all of those who voted for them NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #7

they voted for a candidate who ran an openly bigoted campaign . that's what his campaign was about JI7 Dec 2016 #11

For some people it was NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #16

for most people it was about bigotry that's why they voted for a candidate who attacked JI7 Dec 2016 #18

That's a lie NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #21

i know they are ok with bigoted attacks on minorities since they voted for the one who did that to JI7 Dec 2016 #24

I'm willing to bet that you probably think that many minorities Chitown Kev Dec 2016 #30

They still tolerated DPutins bigotry, that's still not good uponit7771 Dec 2016 #39

I would hope that they would try to understand and address the legitimate grievances Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #32

yeah, but reality is that most white people don't even like blm JI7 Dec 2016 #34

Part of the problem Black Lives Matter has is that they protest some things that turn out mythology Dec 2016 #38

So if they're 5% incorrect they're 100% wrong? Isn't that a high bar set up for failure? tia uponit7771 Dec 2016 #40

why do demand more for blm.But for presidEnt trump us just great ? JI7 Dec 2016 #47

That's great but it doesn't answer my question. EffieBlack Dec 2016 #35

It would be a poor decision on their part if they did respond as you suggest. Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #37

K&R betsuni Dec 2016 #36

Heads would be exploding mcar Dec 2016 #41

And then they got a russian intelligence service to flip the central tabulation machines to win... UCmeNdc Dec 2016 #42

Thank you Effie! DemonGoddess Dec 2016 #43

You're setting up an inaccurate comparison mythology Dec 2016 #44

I didn't say the candidate in my hypo was "expressly" black nationalist. I just said they WERE one EffieBlack Dec 2016 #45

As I wrote above... Garrett78 Dec 2016 #50

So he's not a white supremacists until he explicitly express's such? Really?!?! uponit7771 Dec 2016 #48

A strong "undercurrent" is just as dangerous as outright racism nt Quayblue Dec 2016 #49

+1, there are too many people trying to normalize diet racist on DU uponit7771 Dec 2016 #60

Oh one righteous kick and recommend! ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #46

Thank you!!! DoctorMyEyes Dec 2016 #51

Anybody that liberals/conservatives would call black nationalist is probably someone I'd vote for. DemocraticWing Dec 2016 #52

White fragility makes me ashamed to be white resistance2016 Dec 2016 #55

Please don't be ashamed Quayblue Dec 2016 #56

Excellent post. It's such a double standard. kcr Dec 2016 #61