2016 Postmortem

hellofromreddit

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55. That's a lot of false assumptions and poor reasoning

Reply to NanceGreggs (Reply #8)

Sun Dec 11, 2016, 03:07 PM

Dec 2016

the GOP never said a word against Bernie during the primaries

Never? False. https://politicaladarchive.org/ad/polad_berniesanders_ckd5l/

We now know that the Republicans had oppo research on Bernie - why did they never use it?

Again, not never, but let's just give that one to you and see how it pans out.

With a 17-way primary on their own side it's somehow surprising that they never got around to attacking Sanders? Maybe they were busy. Maybe they were inept. Maybe they saw how it blew up in Clinton's face and decided not to bother. You've provided zero argument to eliminate any possibility; you just let the question hang there as if doing so means something.

We know that Republicans voted FOR Bernie in open primaries - why do you suppose they did that?

Oh, god forbid we have a politician who can reach across party lines to get things done. Besides, that's been happening for years. To believe that this is something related to the presidential race, you'd have to believe the republicans knew years out that Sanders would run.

And again with the dangly question thing.

It was because the GOP wanted Bernie to be the nominee, because they knew he'd be easier to beat in the GE than Hillary.

To quote NanceGreggs: "In light of the actual facts, your theory makes no sense whatsoever." It could just as easily be that they didn't take Sanders seriously and ignored him (much like US media), or that they went with what they knew, and what they knew just happened to be attacking Clinton all day. You haven't narrowed it down even a little.

It also raises a big question without answering it: if the gop can coordinate so well that they can prop up Sanders while they're in the midst of an expensive 17-way primary, why can't the dems coordinate well enough to turn out the damn vote?

I give your conspiracy theory 2 out of 5 foil hats. Because I'm nice.

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Remember when many of us thought the Dem primaries were rigged? [View all] KamaAina Dec 2016 OP

... Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #1

That conversation happened on many Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #2

Nonsense. DURHAM D Dec 2016 #3

Bernie won most of the caucus states. KamaAina Dec 2016 #4

Low Low Turnout Is Rigged otohara Dec 2016 #34

Where in the op are caucuses singled out? NWCorona Dec 2016 #6

Ummmm no maximillian1974 Dec 2016 #5

Yes I remember vividly. NWCorona Dec 2016 #7

Did you notice ... NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #8

Your theory about the GOP wanting Bernie because he'd be easier to beat makes no sense either mtnsnake Dec 2016 #11

As has been explained repeatedly ... NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #17

He'd have lost to Bloomberg and Trump. duffyduff Dec 2016 #20

That's easy... mtnsnake Dec 2016 #22

The Russians were scared of Bernie? EffieBlack Dec 2016 #25

No, not the Russians, Effie. The republicans. mtnsnake Dec 2016 #28

I think that was the last of their concerns EffieBlack Dec 2016 #29

Maybe so mtnsnake Dec 2016 #31

Republicans couldn't care less about getting a "verbal beating" from Bernie Sanders EffieBlack Dec 2016 #32

What is tough about Bernie? Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #48

They didn't "go after" Bernie ... NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #30

Nance, the fact that you had to resort to insults, not once, but several times, speaks volumes mtnsnake Dec 2016 #33

So counter my arguments. NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #35

Like you countered mine? With insults? mtnsnake Dec 2016 #36

Thank you for acknowledging ... NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #37

Your words, not mine mtnsnake Dec 2016 #38

In other words ... NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #41

Then why did they go after Hillary treestar Dec 2016 #49

Nailed it... SidDithers Dec 2016 #16

Reports were that GOP oppo book on Nernie was brutal. Justice Dec 2016 #45

That's a lot of false assumptions and poor reasoning hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #55

So your theory is that ... NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #59

Weak retort. hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #61

You might want to read the OP ... NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #62

Did they leak anything on Bernie? Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #9

No, they didn't NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #21

That sends a message right there. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #47

I remember, and also that those who did so were ridiculed and bullied here in this very forum jack_krass Dec 2016 #10

Well, something that might give your theory just a smidgen of plausibility mtnsnake Dec 2016 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author jalan48 Dec 2016 #13

... SidDithers Dec 2016 #14

So maybe Clinton won the Michigan primary? ucrdem Dec 2016 #15

There, there ... hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #18

Nope. n/t duffyduff Dec 2016 #19

This ties into what Obama said HoneyBadgerDontCare Dec 2016 #23

lol Jean-Jacques Roussea Dec 2016 #27

If the Dem primaries had been rigged, then Sanders would have won. baldguy Dec 2016 #24

Not really, they were trying to help Trump win. Trump is financially indebted to KPN Dec 2016 #40

Cinton was attacked by Russia. Trump wasn't attacked by Russia. Sanders wasn't attacked bt Russia. baldguy Dec 2016 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author Jean-Jacques Roussea Dec 2016 #26

Point to ANY evidence that voting was hacked...in either the Primary or the GE brooklynite Dec 2016 #39

Remember how many of us told you you're wrong? Coyotl Dec 2016 #42

Agree with you about republicans wanting disruption Kathy M Dec 2016 #43

Bernie was not an obstacle...for whatever reason the GOP wanted him....so no there is no evidence Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #46

possible, but much more likely is the Russians planted all those stories about the election being Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #50

Bernie was never a threat. Hillary is, or was, a powerful world player ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #51

If that was the case radical noodle Dec 2016 #52

I do not believe the primaries were rigged. I do however, apcalc Dec 2016 #53

Many here were also using Russian Times articles during the primaries that always hurt HRC... Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #56

Tilted, not rigged. HassleCat Dec 2016 #54

Party primaries are definitely rigged... Orsino Dec 2016 #57

Party Caucuses Are Definitely Rigged otohara Dec 2016 #58

Dream on. n/t duffyduff Dec 2016 #60

Um, the Russians were pushing Bernie. Remember Lee Camp from RT. They're terrified of HRC. synergie Dec 2016 #63

... LexVegas Dec 2016 #64

NO uponit7771 Dec 2016 #65