2016 Postmortem

progree

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40. That was posted Nov 9 -- it is way out of date.

Mon Dec 19, 2016, 09:27 AM

Dec 2016

New York Times has this, just now:
http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/president

Clinton 65,818,318 votes (48.1%)
Trump: 62,958,211 votes (46.0%)
Difference = 2,860,107 (2.1%)

If one updated the bar chart you referred to,
https://twitter.com/jonathanwebber/status/796448989931417600/photo/1

it would show Trump doing quite a bit better than the 2008 and 2012 Rethug candidates, while Clinton is within a hair of Obama 2012 (but considerably less than Obama 2008). And the gap between the two candidates in 2016 (2.86 M) would be quite considerable visually on that graph, though quite a bit less than the 4.98 M gap between Obama and Romney in 2012.

Basically, Clinton was about as "popular" as Obama in 2012, while Trump was quite a bit more "popular" than the previous Rethug candidates (ugggggggh).

I also checked CNN http://www.cnn.com/election/results -- its vote totals are a bit less for both candidates than the NY Times one, so it's a little bit behind.

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Hillary WON the hearts of the voters. She lost the Electoral College, [View all] pnwmom Dec 2016 OP

Thank you, pnwmom Cha Dec 2016 #1

Ditto. And it needs to be repeated frequently. Coyotl Dec 2016 #41

YES this Chimichurri Dec 2016 #2

What scares me deist99 Dec 2016 #3

How? Because we are extremely divided by partisan politics. It used to be pnwmom Dec 2016 #5

Exactly! The Liberal Lion Dec 2016 #7

And now Mediaite is reporting that Trump supporters are receiving death threats. HurricaneWarning Dec 2016 #4

Oh I am sure that is not true Emilybemily Dec 2016 #8

True, HurricaneWarning Dec 2016 #9

K & R SunSeeker Dec 2016 #6

I voted for her, but HRC never won my heart. Larkspur Dec 2016 #10

give it a rest Skittles Dec 2016 #12

+ JI7 Dec 2016 #14

+1000 Paladin Dec 2016 #31

She ran a very good campaign, but the fake email scandal was too much to overcome. StevieM Dec 2016 #16

What you say is mostly true, but she and the party also made some BIG mistakes. Let's be honest. RBInMaine Dec 2016 #22

Then you are part of the problem. baldguy Dec 2016 #23

So voting for HRC made me part of the problem? Larkspur Dec 2016 #48

Believing the "lesser of two evils" bullshit does. baldguy Dec 2016 #49

But Comey and Russia found a way to do so. JTFrog Dec 2016 #42

Except her 'losing' the electoral college triron Dec 2016 #11

Thanks for this link. nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #47

hillary should do her own victory tour :-) nt msongs Dec 2016 #13

hmm triron Dec 2016 #15

I like it! nt JTFrog Dec 2016 #43

Actually the voters hated both candidates, but one had to win jfern Dec 2016 #17

Speak for yourself. Millions of voters loved Hillary. n/t pnwmom Dec 2016 #18

Both have solidly negative net favorables jfern Dec 2016 #19

Because the Rethugs have spent almost two years smearing her. pnwmom Dec 2016 #20

Hillary is a poor candidate. Her favorables were high when no one was paying any attention to her. jfern Dec 2016 #29

It doesn't matter why the negative perception exists... TCJ70 Dec 2016 #38

Two years?! Try three decades! meow2u3 Dec 2016 #46

I like Hillary, but she LOST the hearts of too many voters. We can't just be a big city party. RBInMaine Dec 2016 #21

Voter suppression is why we had fewer African Americans than Obama. pnwmom Dec 2016 #24

I stopped reading at "virtually matched Obama". she didn't. Exilednight Dec 2016 #25

Sorry, but not good enough. aikoaiko Dec 2016 #26

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I disagree bowens43 Dec 2016 #30

Get back to us in a year, about how awful Hillary's "baggage" was..... (nt) Paladin Dec 2016 #33

+1, I'd take her's any day... that posters thinking that justifies RWNJ imho uponit7771 Dec 2016 #37

This is false on face, why repeat RWTP here? Relative to her time in public face she had very little uponit7771 Dec 2016 #36

Or maybe spoken like a Democrat who hates that we will have a Pres. Trump aikoaiko Dec 2016 #32

She did NOT win the hearts of the voters bowens43 Dec 2016 #28

She didn't win my heart, just my vote considering the horrible alternative. nm progree Dec 2016 #34

+1, Donald Trump won America lost !!!!! uponit7771 Dec 2016 #35

Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #39

That was posted Nov 9 -- it is way out of date. progree Dec 2016 #40

I sit corrected. hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #44

She came SO close. jmg257 Dec 2016 #45