2016 Postmortem

BainsBane

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23. The polling showed as much prior to the Comey letter

Mon Dec 19, 2016, 02:21 PM

Dec 2016

Acting like it was just hubris ignores the data we all read.

And I get you derive some pleasure in saying I told you so, but the way to deal with worrying is not to create some sort of consensus on a website that you are right but to volunteer to turn out voters. Did you do that?

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Obama says Democrats lost by not showing up [View all] portlander23 Dec 2016 OP

yeah by not showing up in 2010 and 2014 La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #1

Every election is lost by the loser not having more voters show, except when Dems run for President. Coyotl Dec 2016 #2

+1 Little Star Dec 2016 #5

I am sure glad it didn't have anything to do with the 2013 SC decision which struck still_one Dec 2016 #3

+1 Little Star Dec 2016 #7

Here's a live link for your post Uponthegears Dec 2016 #31

It was AFTER that SC decision that 14 other states became embolded and still_one Dec 2016 #33

Cannot disagree at all Uponthegears Dec 2016 #37

We all have to really unite to fight this, because we are all in this together still_one Dec 2016 #39

Our arms are locked Uponthegears Dec 2016 #41

YES!!!!!!!!! still_one Dec 2016 #46

I agree and somewhat disagree. WilliamH1474 Dec 2016 #67

Perhaps rather than complain after the fact... NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #53

I am responding to the OP pointing out that 2008 and 2012 were not the same still_one Dec 2016 #55

It figures Uponthegears Dec 2016 #57

Hear,hear. n/t ogradda Dec 2016 #54

A bad argument. Turbineguy Dec 2016 #60

I don't know if they are reachable or not, but I do know that this election was a still_one Dec 2016 #61

Generational is right. Turbineguy Dec 2016 #62

no doubt about it still_one Dec 2016 #65

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2016 #70

The Electoral College is weighted wrong if Ca has that many more voters it MattP Dec 2016 #4

The simple solution zipplewrath Dec 2016 #20

might have something to do with voter id laws, voter roll purges, polling location placement, unblock Dec 2016 #6

It sure did have something to do with it unblock, along with the 2013 SC decision which shot down still_one Dec 2016 #9

It looks like Obama really, really wants a smooth transition of power. jalan48 Dec 2016 #8

How is it that Obama overcame so much in 2008 and Hillary Exilednight Dec 2016 #10

you're wrong. she didn't have it easier, it is much harder to win when your party has controlled the La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #12

A basic recitation of the order of presidents BainsBane Dec 2016 #22

Reagan was a two term president who followed by his own party. Exilednight Dec 2016 #36

Reagan was an enormously popular Republican BainsBane Dec 2016 #40

Obama's approval rating for his last year in office is three points higher than Reagan's was. Exilednight Dec 2016 #49

Dukakis was doing well until the death penalty question JI7 Dec 2016 #48

My opinion-too much baggage and hubris. Trump was so bad her campaign thought she had it in the bag. jalan48 Dec 2016 #13

this! berksdem Dec 2016 #16

The polling showed as much prior to the Comey letter BainsBane Dec 2016 #23

yes... berksdem Dec 2016 #28

Elitism? BainsBane Dec 2016 #29

Good point. JudyM Dec 2016 #44

What data exactly are you speaking of? The data that showed her lead quickly evaporating in the Exilednight Dec 2016 #52

That, plus the perception of entitlement Retrograde Dec 2016 #63

I agree 100% WilliamH1474 Dec 2016 #69

I couldn't agree more. n/t mtnsnake Dec 2016 #72

I know right Lotusflower70 Dec 2016 #15

Because he ran following 8 yrs of GOP rule and the economy was a mess BainsBane Dec 2016 #17

What was her economic message? Exilednight Dec 2016 #34

We've been through this before BainsBane Dec 2016 #43

Perhaps you're underweighting the fact that a significant number of working people don't have time JudyM Dec 2016 #45

The sign of true genius is the ability to take a complex subject and narrow it down to a few Exilednight Dec 2016 #50

Russian hacking and releasing info from the DNC contributed to the demoralization of shraby Dec 2016 #11

Hammer meet nail DeminPennswoods Dec 2016 #19

Suddenly Obama's advice matters? BainsBane Dec 2016 #14

Not to me zipplewrath Dec 2016 #21

Obama's not "just another corporatist Establishment Dem" aidbo Dec 2016 #35

This isn't either/or but instead and crazycatlady Dec 2016 #18

Low turnout? SFnomad Dec 2016 #42

It was down in many battleground states pstokely Dec 2016 #56

Sorry, that's a generality you can't make SFnomad Dec 2016 #71

So that's your 2 cents , Mr. President? Not even a half cent on Comey? oasis Dec 2016 #24

Is the OP ever going to show up? BainsBane Dec 2016 #25

+1... SidDithers Dec 2016 #38

some democrats who showed up voted for trump....I hope they regret the decision for years beachbum bob Dec 2016 #26

What if they show up but are not allowed to vote? Or never got to register because the DMV office KittyWampus Dec 2016 #27

Some in Wisconsin are only open the "fifth Thursday" i.e. 4/5 per year. bettyellen Dec 2016 #47

It's not good enough to show up to these areas every four years. PatsFan87 Dec 2016 #30

That's ALWAYS the reason lame54 Dec 2016 #32

Somebody tell him that Hillary Clinton won the popular vote. milestogo Dec 2016 #51

. Rex Dec 2016 #58

Ever again? Truth321 Dec 2016 #59

See I've been saying it was a base vs base election and ours didn't turn out. coolbreeze77 Dec 2016 #64

About 3 million more of us turned out, so no that is not it. Rex Dec 2016 #68

Sorry Mr. Obama, I like you a LOT, but the DNC turned to SHIT under your tenure. RBInMaine Dec 2016 #66