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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: media narrative that Dems lost 'working class whites' is BS. the split was the ol' rural vs urban [View all]Bill USA
(6,436 posts)3. my freinds & relatives who live in rural areas would be offended by your characterization of rural
residents as pre-industrial revolution people.
"Rural people HUNT for food and it's IMPORTANT to them so they can feed their families."
........ LOL. My such melodrama! I think there are very very few rural people who get the main portion of their food from hunting. IT isn't 1830 anymore. Now, that (saying rural people go out hunting for all their food) could offend many rurally located people.
I have a friend who lives in a rural area (near a pretty good sized town). He's a farmer and he doesn't hunt for his food. He buys it at a market just like large urban area people do. Rural located people aren't living in log cabins. They have towns with retail stores and markets. I have relatives who are rurally located but they live close to a town where they have jobs and can buy food at a market. (They prefer this to living in a large metro area with all the traffic and more time spent driving back and forth to work) When referring to urban areas, I think of larger urban areas, say larger than 250,000 people, although this is obviously pretty subjective.
"Rural areas have FEW jobs to the point that people with college degrees have to compete for a damn job flipping burgers at McDonalds."
"rural people who have no jobs and have to go on welfare to survive when all they want to do is work and provide for their families."
You described the same problem college graduates (often those with degrees in fine arts or social sciences) in large urban areas have too. This largely is a result of the Trickle Down economics of Cheney's regency. When President Obama and Democrats proposed a bill to keep the Trickle Down Deregulation disaster from becoming the Great Depression II, they could only get 3 Republicans to vote for it. After that, President Obama and the Dems proposed many jobs bills which would have stimulated the economy and increased job creation faster than what we have seen. But the GOP filibustered or poison pilled these bills to death. The result has been a recovery that was much slower that it needed to be. But the GOP's plan was to make sure Obama was a one term president. Accordingly the broke their own records for filibustering and undermined the recovery we could have had.
[font size="3"]Oh please, cool it with the violin -- nobody is demonizing rural voters. But the GOP's tactics of whipping up xenophobia (blacks as "welfare queens" (but not corporations with their tax breaks, LOL)) and attacking anything that Democrats propose to help with wages for working people or worker safety regulations or health care (for all working people, urban or rural) [font color="red"]goes over much better with rural populations than with those in large urban centers[/font] (But, I guess the GOP will have to come up with another fear mongering tactic now that Trump has a bromance going with Putin. I wish I could laugh). [/font]
see:
Natural Born Job Killers: Republicans Obstruct over 4.2 million jobs
Natural Born Job Killers: Republicans Are Set to Kill 1 Million More Jobs in 2014
[font size="+1"] Democrats have been devoting their efforts to help working people (without the melodrama), urban and rural, since the First Great Depression. Here's a good piece written a few years ago about what people can thank the Democratic Party for:[/font]
[font size="4"]Day in the Life of a Joe Six-Pack Republican[/font]
[font size="3"]Joe gets up at 6:00 AM to prepare his morning coffee. He fills his pot full of good clean drinking water because some liberal fought for minimum water quality standards. He takes his daily medication with his first swallow of coffee. His medications are safe to take because some liberal fought to insure their safety and work as advertised.
All but $10.00 of his medications are paid for by his employers medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance, now Joe gets it too. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs this day. Joes bacon is safe to eat because some liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.
Joe takes his morning shower reaching for his shampoo; His bottle is properly labeled with every ingredient and the amount of its contents because some liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained. Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some tree hugging liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government subsidized ride to work; it saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees. You see, some liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.
Joe begins his work day; he has a good job with excellent pay, medicals benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe's employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.
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Source: http://tvnewslies.org/html/day_in_the_life_of_joe_middle-.html
[font size="3"]Joe gets up at 6:00 AM to prepare his morning coffee. He fills his pot full of good clean drinking water because some liberal fought for minimum water quality standards. He takes his daily medication with his first swallow of coffee. His medications are safe to take because some liberal fought to insure their safety and work as advertised.
All but $10.00 of his medications are paid for by his employers medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance, now Joe gets it too. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs this day. Joes bacon is safe to eat because some liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.
Joe takes his morning shower reaching for his shampoo; His bottle is properly labeled with every ingredient and the amount of its contents because some liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained. Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some tree hugging liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government subsidized ride to work; it saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees. You see, some liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.
Joe begins his work day; he has a good job with excellent pay, medicals benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe's employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.
(MORE)[/font]
Source: http://tvnewslies.org/html/day_in_the_life_of_joe_middle-.html
[font size="3"]I appreciate your compassion for working people[/font] (urban or rural). You will be glad to know that Democrats have been fighting Republican con-men for about a century trying to make this a better world for working people.
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media narrative that Dems lost 'working class whites' is BS. the split was the ol' rural vs urban [View all]
Bill USA
Dec 2016
OP
my freinds & relatives who live in rural areas would be offended by your characterization of rural
Bill USA
Dec 2016
#3
your implying that my comnt 3 was NOT honest is typical RW argument by invective & implied moral
Bill USA
Dec 2016
#8
Go ahead and completely ignore the point since it's always a suffering competition
NoGoodNamesLeft
Dec 2016
#6
I couldn't find an email for Brownstein but he has a twitter account..url provided
Bill USA
Dec 2016
#14
I never saw your self deleted and probably amusingly adolescent remark. So Sorrrrrryyyy...LOL
Bill USA
Jan 2017
#18
Lots of black folk live in rural areas, too - where do they fit in to this scenario?
EffieBlack
Dec 2016
#10