2016 Postmortem

realmirage

(2,117 posts) Tue Dec 20, 2016, 12:47 PM Dec 2016

If I have a choice between a progressive and a centrist, I'll never vote centrist again [View all]

It has become clear to me that "centrist" means corporate friendly. Why else would Democrats say fuck you to people who lost jobs due to horrible trade policies? That's a REPUBLICAN talking point. They are the ones who side with corporations over working people. Democrats speak up for working people and fight for every job and union. If you find yourself easily dismissing the suffering of working class people, you're seeing it wrong. The rust belt taught us this lesson and I'm never voting centrist again unless it's the ONLY choice versus a republican.

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If I have a choice between a progressive and a centrist, I'll never vote centrist again [View all] realmirage Dec 2016 OP

It is the only choice. HassleCat Dec 2016 #1

Ok, now that was really funny! Yurovsky Dec 2016 #7

Worked out well last time around. Vinca Dec 2016 #38

I prefer center left candidates for president. hrmjustin Dec 2016 #2

I think Trump just proved that populist realmirage Dec 2016 #3

A progressive can win but it is not easy. hrmjustin Dec 2016 #4

One small matter: Are you forgetting he didn't win the primary? brush Dec 2016 #5

Of course he didn't. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #6

So it would behoove a progressive candidate to campaign equaly on social as well . . . brush Dec 2016 #8

Yes, that would help. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #11

Bernie did campaign on social issues as well. Maybe MSM didn't give that the coverage, but in his JudyM Dec 2016 #15

It won't help in primaries if... Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #16

I get what you mean, but it's more about coverage, which has been reduced to drama and sound bytes. JudyM Dec 2016 #17

True, but candidates have time constraints on their messages too. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #20

Interesting thought. JudyM Dec 2016 #22

I'm one of the "social concerns are a given" Democrats. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #23

They win with the help of FBI, Russia WhiteTara Dec 2016 #12

So, Working Class Wants Tax Breaks for Rich... TomCADem Dec 2016 #13

Trump proved liars can win emulatorloo Dec 2016 #29

And all this squabbling MFM008 Dec 2016 #9

Have there been any studies that prove/count the jobs lost/gained from trade deals? LonePirate Dec 2016 #10

I give up myself.. JHan Dec 2016 #26

This is exactly why we lost the rust belt. I fear realmirage Dec 2016 #35

No, my singular opinion is not the reason we lost the rust belt.. JHan Dec 2016 #36

I voted for a Progressive Democrat bravenak Dec 2016 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author JudyM Dec 2016 #18

I voted for Bernie and lost. I voted for Clinton and lost again. Joe941 Dec 2016 #19

This is a limited and not very mature way to see politics Dem2 Dec 2016 #21

I'll let you stick with strategies that lose. I'm going to learn and grow from this loss realmirage Dec 2016 #24

Lol Dem2 Dec 2016 #25

You must think losing is funny. Losing is for losers realmirage Dec 2016 #32

You're gonna stick with binary thinking, false narratives emulatorloo Dec 2016 #30

No, I'm going to vote for candidates that fight for the middle class realmirage Dec 2016 #31

Uh-huh emulatorloo Dec 2016 #34

It is important not to boxed in by labels. LiberalFighter Dec 2016 #27

A candidate who speaks in a passionate way realmirage Dec 2016 #33

Well, that's dumb. Squinch Dec 2016 #28

Like the only people who "suffer" are these people from the rust belt. TrekLuver Dec 2016 #37

That attitude is a perfect recipe for another loss in 2020 realmirage Dec 2016 #39

Rust belt votes had the choice between a progressive and a racist... SidDithers Dec 2016 #40

they had a choice in senate candidates also JI7 Dec 2016 #43

I don;t dismiss the suffering of working people... Adrahil Dec 2016 #41

Why didn't they vote for feingold and strickland if it's about trade ? JI7 Dec 2016 #42

Lables are so confusing Go Vols Dec 2016 #44

We are running out of time for caretaker presidents. Orsino Dec 2016 #45

What if the "centrist" is an old-school moderate? meow2u3 Dec 2016 #46

If I have a choice I'll pick the candidate with balls to stand up for both realmirage Dec 2016 #47