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Igel

(36,108 posts)
41. "Sworn", in the sense "publicly affirmed or confirmed."
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 08:50 PM
Dec 2016

Often with a tinge of hyperbole.

Rather different from "sworn-in enemies," which is what often happens in court of law. I don't think there's a chief magistrate able to swear in Russia as an enemy in the court of war, were such a thing to exist.

Usually "sworn enemies" has reciprocity in the definition, but it strikes me that results from the plural noun referring to two parties. I could imagine somebody felicitiously saying "Bertie and Jeeves are my sworn enemies, but honestly, I fail to see what I did to incur such animosity".

Saying "Roger and Bertie are sworn enemies" in isolation rather presupposes reciprocity in any decent parsing of the verb's semantics.


I'll put this down as flouting Grice. I'll leave aside intentionality. (http://www-01.sil.org/linguistics/GlossaryOfLinguisticTerms/WhatIsTheCooperativePrinciple.htm)

Mansplaining? Maybe, but I think it's more stupidity and bullshit.... TreasonousBastard Dec 2016 #1
I'm for real. I get this "you don't know what treason is" blah, blah, blah LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #2
Missed those threads (largely deliberately) but I see some Bernistas not being able... TreasonousBastard Dec 2016 #3
Your last sentence is the spot on truth... LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #11
OK, what's mansplaining?? Kilgore Dec 2016 #4
it is when a man patronises or condescends to a woman when trying to argue a point Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #6
I thought that was called "being very rude" Kilgore Dec 2016 #62
Oh it is, but everything must be framed in a racism or sexism context now Amishman Dec 2016 #64
Unfortunately so Kilgore Dec 2016 #65
Yes, but... TlalocW Dec 2016 #5
lol. JHan Dec 2016 #7
Russia is our sworn enemy? oberliner Dec 2016 #8
Having been to Russia rumdude Dec 2016 #12
Oh, that setteles it then. You went there before and they were cordial LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #18
Who, exactly, swore them as our enemy? pintobean Dec 2016 #22
Oh...*another* "that settles it". The USA has no enemies. Ok. Gotcha. LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #25
Answer the question. pintobean Dec 2016 #26
Do I need to "submit" to you...in the way that YOU demand? LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #27
Again, you made the claim. pintobean Dec 2016 #28
No, I answered your question....you just decided you didn't like my answer. LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #31
"Sworn", in the sense "publicly affirmed or confirmed." Igel Dec 2016 #41
Are you mansplaining pintobean Dec 2016 #43
Thank you for setting someone straight LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #45
Meddling in our elections. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #52
There, there, little lady. Let me tell you how you're wrong & how Bernie could have saved us all. baldguy Dec 2016 #9
I know, right? lol nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #10
And that, for those wondering, is mansplaining mcar Dec 2016 #21
Where does a mansplainer get his water? sweetloukillbot Dec 2016 #29
Perfect! mcar Dec 2016 #56
"Well, actually"--Isn't that the name of a movie starring Hugh Grant? nt tblue37 Dec 2016 #58
Great melman Dec 2016 #50
Perfect reply. baldguy Dec 2016 #60
Heres some realitysplaining: Russia is NOT (and never was) our sworn enemy. jack_krass Dec 2016 #13
LOL! Did you forget the Cold War? Why it looks like reality eludes you LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #16
"Did you forget the Cold War?" jack_krass Dec 2016 #19
awesome. LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #20
Heres some more realitysplain: Russia is NOT the USSR jack_krass Dec 2016 #44
YAWN LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #46
The USSR ended 25 years ago pintobean Dec 2016 #49
Afghanistan was the true graveyard of that empire. elehhhhna Dec 2016 #53
We didn't actually win anything radical noodle Dec 2016 #55
Christ on a trailer hitch Hekate Dec 2016 #38
Putin would rather disagree. Igel Dec 2016 #42
Happy to be on disagreeing sides with Putin. nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #48
If that was an act of war, then we would have attacked almost every country in the world. jfern Dec 2016 #14
You are conflating *AND* setting up a straw man LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #17
Come on, the US government hacks almost everyone. jfern Dec 2016 #39
We would never spy on our "sworn enemies" pintobean Dec 2016 #40
which has nothing to do with them hacking our election. Pretending that rewards them. nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #47
Things just keep getting sillier. pintobean Dec 2016 #15
"This Microaggression Will Not Stand, Man" Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #30
More mansplainin', man. pintobean Dec 2016 #32
Well what else am I supposed to do with this big ol' mansplainer I got here Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #34
OMF WTF is that thing? Looks like the giant robotic land-squid from my nightmares lol jack_krass Dec 2016 #36
It's a good looking woman. pintobean Dec 2016 #37
Just because people are telling you you're wrong, doesn't make it mansplaining mythology Dec 2016 #23
There's also the possibility that they're mansplaining LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #24
LOL! EL34x4 Dec 2016 #63
I've gotten it in here MFM008 Dec 2016 #33
They don't think it's *them*. LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #35
i know MFM008 Dec 2016 #57
argh! logic trap! can't prove you wrong without proving you right! unblock Dec 2016 #51
I'm stunned by the brushing aside of the very real threat Russia represents Tatiana Dec 2016 #54
me too. I am stunned by their arrogance, hubris, whatever. LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #61
The last sentence....girrrrrrrrrrrrl...that last sentence NAILS it. LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #66
They showed up in this thread, right on time. I feel like now is a good time to mention kcr Dec 2016 #59
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