2016 Postmortem

Garrett78

(10,721 posts) Sat Dec 31, 2016, 11:49 AM Dec 2016

Finding common ground. Can most all of us agree about the following: [View all]

1) the Democratic Party must do all it can to combat voter suppression

2) the Democratic Party should make a big stink about gerrymandering

3) the Democratic Party should promote media literacy and critical thinking in schools, while drawing attention to the GOP's complicity in people subscribing to patently false beliefs

4) the Democratic Party should draw attention to the media's obsession with spectacle and penchant for false equivalencies, while promoting media responsibility (because long overdue is a strong pushback against the "liberal media" narrative; and the airwaves are part of "the commons&quot

5) Neither Clinton nor Sanders will be the nominee in 2020

Agree? Partially agree? Disagree completely?

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Finding common ground. Can most all of us agree about the following: [View all] Garrett78 Dec 2016 OP

Agree completely. Pholus Dec 2016 #1

Agree Va Lefty Dec 2016 #2

I do agree crazycatlady Dec 2016 #3

The other problem is there's a hell of a lot of nonsense online. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #5

No kidding! Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #7

No joke. Broadcast TV and cable news don't require quiet as much fact-checking. Hoyt Dec 2016 #28

Sounds good. we can do it Dec 2016 #4

Agree yardwork Dec 2016 #6

How about: 0) Let's not attack the Democratic Party baldguy Dec 2016 #8

And do you make a distiction between criticism and attack? Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #13

Attacks use RW talking points. baldguy Dec 2016 #20

Well said- the people who started that shit here turned out to be a bunch of trolls for Trump.... bettyellen Dec 2016 #24

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2016 #39

neither your analysis nor your solution rate as something we can all agree upon. nt JCanete Dec 2016 #18

Perhaps all of us aren't capital-D Democrats. baldguy Dec 2016 #21

maybe some of us are capital-A Americans. The Democratic party is good so long as it is actually JCanete Dec 2016 #23

See post # 20 baldguy Dec 2016 #25

but unlike you, I see this as a trend and ultimate result that the JCanete Dec 2016 #29

Don't even start with that RW "Democrats are the same as Republicans" bullshit. baldguy Dec 2016 #30

not what I said. In fact nothing you said addressed my issues with the Democratic Party or JCanete Dec 2016 #32

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I am like what? That was a shitty connection to try to make on so many levels. JCanete Dec 2016 #35

I didn't makes any connection - you did. baldguy Dec 2016 #36

fuck that, you are still avoiding pointing it out. That is simply cowardice. Either admit you were JCanete Dec 2016 #38

If you can't see what you're doing, then you're too far down the GOP's garden path to save. baldguy Dec 2016 #40

You're being pretty shameless. If you really just didn't want to bother because this is a waste of JCanete Dec 2016 #41

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Oh I see, it's New Years! Hope the hangover isn't too rough on you. I assure you, we're both JCanete Jan 2017 #44

This is fundamental. joshcryer Dec 2016 #34

Some people seem to think that the first step in defeating the fascist Republicans baldguy Dec 2016 #37

Two Democratic Chairs being Jill Stein supporters... joshcryer Jan 2017 #45

Per #5, I want to see some new faces running for POTUS... Yurovsky Dec 2016 #9

Agree with almost all but #4 could backfire. Drawing the ire of the media at large can dionysus Dec 2016 #10

Republicans have been attacking the media relentlessly for decades. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #11

The media is RW owned, they'll suck it up from the rethugs. Either they are RW owned or dionysus Dec 2016 #12

"they bend so far over backwards to avoid the "liberal media" tag." Garrett78 Dec 2016 #14

but they don't actually bend over backwards to avoid that tag...that's the irony. They sell JCanete Dec 2016 #17

it will but there is no choice. Going after corporations is also a way of drawing ire of the media. JCanete Dec 2016 #16

Agree almost entirely, with the caveat that we can't just pretend the media does spectacle and false JCanete Dec 2016 #15

I with you on everything except the gerrymandering aikoaiko Dec 2016 #19

Mostly hurl Dec 2016 #22

I agree on the what. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #26

Agreed. Fix or ditching the EC should also be a big priority as well. brush Dec 2016 #27

The GOP is the party of voter suppression and relies on voter suppression to win races Gothmog Dec 2016 #31

Agreed. And neither Hillary NOR Bernie, nor either of their supporters, Ken Burch Jan 2017 #43