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2016 Postmortem
Showing Original Post only (View all)Dkos: No, Senator Sanders; YOU are out of touch (opinion piece) [View all]
In 2015, in interviews, he made it clear the voters he wanted to attract were the white middle class.
This, in a nutshell, is why Bernie lost the primaries.
In an excellent article in Fusion, by Terrell Jermaine Starr, the reasons why Bernie lost the primaries are described:
How Bernie Sanders lost the black vote.
Based upon interviews with people that worked for the Sanders campaign it is shown that Bernie from the very start chose to ignore POC voters.
Despite desperate pleas from his black outreach team staffers, it was considered a waste to focus on POC voters by people high up in the campaign, because it was thought Bernie couldnt win them anyway.
https://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/01/08/1618051/-No-Senator-Sanders-YOU-are-out-of-touch
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Kerry won independents in 2004 and Romney won them in 2012. most indies are partisans that lean one
JI7
Jan 2017
#3
SBS did not win the minority vote. You think you know better than they do, maybe
Maru Kitteh
Jan 2017
#121
I saw something like this on JPR where they were applauding the booing of John Lewsi
Gothmog
Jan 2017
#412
There are valid reasons why many African American and other voters do not support Sanders
Gothmog
Jan 2017
#414
Sanders HAD to "work with Black Lives Matters [sic] more than Hillary did"....
George II
Jan 2017
#417
How ironic. Scolding others for lies and revisionism, then still trying to peddle the old fake
betsuni
Jan 2017
#421
People don't need to read the transcript, they can watch the whole thing on video.
Kentonio
Jan 2017
#422
WTF. You are blaming African Americans for trump's win. How about those self-identified
still_one
Jan 2017
#418
She took his plan word for word, from how to impliment it to paying for it.
Exilednight
Jan 2017
#87
Were you here doing the campaign? There were raging arguments about Sanders' message . . .
brush
Jan 2017
#154
I'm still waiting for someone with intellgence who disagrees with Bernie to actually come up with a
Exilednight
Jan 2017
#185
Absolutely my perception as well. A lot of noisy but vacant diatribes, and finger wagging.
JudyM
Jan 2017
#261
You asked for it. Many disargreed with his campaign's disregard of the southern ...
brush
Jan 2017
#264
Everyone doesn't go to campaign web sites but they do listen to candidates and surrogates
brush
Jan 2017
#273
Then why show up to post on an op I posted if you dont want to hear what I have to say?
bravenak
Jan 2017
#283
I totally agree that there are all kinds of ways that people of color are targeted and disadvantaged
JCanete
Jan 2017
#482
Yes, that makes sense. I'll say that improving wages of underserved communities should improve
JCanete
Jan 2017
#484
I live in the real world and so I never accepted the premise of Sanders so-called revolution
Gothmog
Jan 2017
#105
Ever think that the leaks from the illegal Russian hack of the DNC that helped Trump in the general
baldguy
Jan 2017
#242
Do you approve of the Sanders delegates booing Congressman John Lewis at the National Convention??
Gothmog
Jan 2017
#389
Voters thought Hillary and the Clinton Machine had the better chance of beating Trump.
SMC22307
Jan 2017
#200
I know it stings that it was Sanders' idea and that he and Cuomo made the announcement...
SMC22307
Jan 2017
#250
I'm sure he will have as much efficacy shaping policy as he has in the past. nt
fleabiscuit
Jan 2017
#274
blah blah blah...Sanders just now figured out that you can make money in politics after 25 years of
JCanete
Jan 2017
#381
that is true, and if the did something actually shady, I will be disappointed. That said,
JCanete
Jan 2017
#391
"This is another hatchet piece designed to keep us fighting each other and to marginalize...
tecelote
Jan 2017
#221
Oh, FFS. If we're supposed to be focusing on battling the Republicans then Sanders should STFU
baldguy
Jan 2017
#239
We don't need people who believe every RW lie about the Dems and our candidates that comes along.
baldguy
Jan 2017
#320
As long as Sanders keeps using RW talking points to attack Democrats, he'll never be a Democrat.
baldguy
Jan 2017
#415
Still confused by this. Are you frustrated that he didn't campaign hard enough for your demographic,
JCanete
Jan 2017
#336
I am pissed that he could not be trusted to listen when we said, 'yo peeps is trippin'
bravenak
Jan 2017
#359
I see what you are doing as alienating Bernie progressives that ended up voting for Hillary
Freethinker65
Jan 2017
#21
And here are POC applauding Sanders and Cuomo at the free college announcement.
SMC22307
Jan 2017
#247
It'll go away as soon as Sanders admits that he lost & stops attacking Democrats.
baldguy
Jan 2017
#176
That Seattle rally when the mic was taken out of his hand? He didn't complain --
Akamai
Jan 2017
#280
It was the nasty reaction by his group to black people and black lives matter
bravenak
Jan 2017
#282
Bravenak -- you are very, very naive, I think if those insults changed your mind. You think
Akamai
Jan 2017
#286
How many progressives that you know did that versus the total number of people doing that?
Akamai
Jan 2017
#290
Why would I need stats? Do you think they poll everything in life? Thats crazy
bravenak
Jan 2017
#305
For a while I tried to seperate Sanders from that shit too. It just got too much to ignore.
forjusticethunders
Jan 2017
#319
yes. They voted first before he had name recognition, and the "liberal" media outlets
JCanete
Jan 2017
#361
Bernie Sanders also said my vote should not count because i am from Alabama.
stonecutter357
Jan 2017
#46
Also related to this, he did not think that the primaries should be front-loaded
Akamai
Jan 2017
#281
In the interest of constructive criticism my perception is that his reliance on RW talking points
ucrdem
Jan 2017
#48
If it was decided well before he started it was because people didn't know him
NWCorona
Jan 2017
#70
Exactly, ucr.. " And that is one reason many are still furious at the way he conducted his campaign"
Cha
Jan 2017
#232
What does faithful democrat mean to you? And people have a very very narrow lens through which
JCanete
Jan 2017
#327
You want to use the worst examples of Sanders supporters to define all of us. Wouldn't you object to
JCanete
Jan 2017
#370
Did you see his appearance on MSNBC this morning? What he said was not "uniting".
George II
Jan 2017
#144
I wasn't on DU during the primaries, nor did I vote at all in Ohio's primary.
Buckeye_Democrat
Jan 2017
#147
Fine. Its not something he did, and usually this was brought up in response to
JCanete
Jan 2017
#339
see! well at least you don't deny it. I know plenty of Sanders supporters, none of which are as you
JCanete
Jan 2017
#356
That behavior was largely exaggerated as to its actual reach and scope, intentionally so. A lie
JCanete
Jan 2017
#363
but that isn't what I said. I told you it wasn't many of us. I certainly didn't know any and if I
JCanete
Jan 2017
#367
she outright told people in the black community that if "that" was how they were going to approach
JCanete
Jan 2017
#383
a hit job that is directed at the carrier of a progressive message that takes on the institutions,
JCanete
Jan 2017
#386
How do we discuss this. If I can't point out why I think he's better on social issues,
JCanete
Jan 2017
#395
I do realize that and have said so repeatedly. You keep ascribing a behavior to me that either does
JCanete
Jan 2017
#403
You are right about that, we need to not trust politicians, and really, I only do trust Obama
bravenak
Jan 2017
#406
Fair enough. I appreciate that you're a considerate communicator and honest broker when it comes to
JCanete
Jan 2017
#408
This ONE fucking sentence sums up two fucking centuries+ of Left failure. Goddamn I'm in awe.
forjusticethunders
Jan 2017
#457
My condolences for your experience at the hands of bad actors. I wish we as humans were better
JCanete
Jan 2017
#380
They were delegates to the national convention and so should have represented sanders base
Gothmog
Jan 2017
#387
He brought people into the party. Some left, some stayed. That helped HRC. End of story.
snowy owl
Jan 2017
#120
Too much turmoil, continuing that turmoil WILL NOT unite of help the DNC.
Thinkingabout
Jan 2017
#124
In the real world, Sanders's so-called revolution failed and he did not bring in new voters
Gothmog
Jan 2017
#375
Sanders complaining about others not listening and being out of touch is ironic.
betsuni
Jan 2017
#136
No, I have a feeling you have much, much, much more free time to post things online.
betsuni
Jan 2017
#251
Oh, my. Just havin' some fun with the "Where was Hillary"! You told me to do more work...
betsuni
Jan 2017
#266
is bashing the DNC going to help, no, and telling the DNC will not unite the party
Thinkingabout
Jan 2017
#173
They are not my enemies, but some of them think democrats as a whole are their enemies.
bravenak
Jan 2017
#151
I would place those who "think democrats as a whole are their enemies" as those who are against
marked50
Jan 2017
#180
Those who dole out criticisms must learn to accept criticisms. This is criticism in written form.
bravenak
Jan 2017
#187
I do not find his way very productive either but I decided to give the old college try
bravenak
Jan 2017
#203
Be careful of tying your identity to closely to a "label or ideology" is all I can suggest.
marked50
Jan 2017
#210
Your post makes me very happy! He's left his mark. In a dark future, his may be the brightest light.
snowy owl
Jan 2017
#168
Really ..its getting a little tiresome reading this shit about Bernie Sanders which is Bull shit
INdemo
Jan 2017
#182
Interesting, isn't it, that when Bernie criticizes fellow Democrats, he's helping them by speaking
EffieBlack
Jan 2017
#226
You're just being honest and are only helping him see the error of his ways and do better
EffieBlack
Jan 2017
#228
+1, Calling dems out of touch is overtly dismissive of CALCULATED effects of voter suppression and
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#314
The party is out of touch though. It just is. It thinks it can win by being friendly with big money.
JCanete
Jan 2017
#331
but you don't like that he's saying the party is out of touch. Do you want that to continue? nt
JCanete
Jan 2017
#345
You didn't address the ways I called us out of touch in the previous post. Repeating that we aren't
JCanete
Jan 2017
#347
so you do agree with me, our approach IS out of touch! We don't do the very thing you say we need
JCanete
Jan 2017
#357
In some families, especially those of marginalized groups of whatever color
forjusticethunders
Jan 2017
#458
Well again, Sanders is welcome into the party by those of us in the party. You can say he's a
JCanete
Jan 2017
#471
... or Russia hacked stated and local electoral boards and the RWTP became "didn't affect election"
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#317
+1, dems out of touch there was no Comey, Russia and voter suppression. Blame the victim shit
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#316
Agreed.. I am so tired of him. He lost to Hillary. How can he give any advice? nt
asuhornets
Jan 2017
#328
Sanders lost because he was out of touch with minorities and Clinton lost because
hollowdweller
Jan 2017
#332
I disagree that he had a role in that. The corporate media however...so I do not really know
JCanete
Jan 2017
#428
So you aren't a simple computer algorithm then? I'm glad you cleared that up for me, for like the
JCanete
Jan 2017
#434
That is amusing coming from someone who does not use facts in his/her/its posts
Gothmog
Jan 2017
#435
He was asked to say something positive about Trump given that he'd called him a pathological liar.
JCanete
Jan 2017
#430
The media gave him no such pass. You paid attention to a different primary than I did.
JCanete
Jan 2017
#433
I don't give a fuck what Trump picked up and ran with. He's a crazy motherfucker.
JCanete
Jan 2017
#438
Irresponsible to name specific names, without an investigation. They already knew banks had broken
JCanete
Jan 2017
#441
He wasn't accusing Clinton of illegal corruption though. He just wasn't. He was saying that money
JCanete
Jan 2017
#470
you don't understand what the criticism of incrementalism was, and frankly, a lot of
JCanete
Jan 2017
#475
okay, I think we can both agree this conversation isn't going anywhere. You aren't bothering to
JCanete
Jan 2017
#479
If you think black women discussing race us race baiting then YOU ARE THE ONE WITH
bravenak
Jan 2017
#442
To all those who smear this as divisive. Sanders is the one who is continuing the divide.
kcr
Jan 2017
#443
He isn't praising Trump. He hasn't praised Trump. Saying that he won the election with
JCanete
Jan 2017
#445