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In reply to the discussion: So now Occupy is against world trade and capitalism? They will lose support of the 50+% of the 99% [View all]Zalatix
(8,994 posts)95. We would have supported them by fighting for an $8/hour minimum wage in Haiti.
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So now Occupy is against world trade and capitalism? They will lose support of the 50+% of the 99% [View all]
applegrove
May 2012
OP
And can you name one thing about globalization that has been positive? nt
Sarah Ibarruri
May 2012
#1
Millions of people in Asia and Africa are now middle class. Bill Clinton wrote in his book that
applegrove
May 2012
#4
The people who are impoverished are the subsistence farmers who face famine. That is a tough life.
applegrove
May 2012
#9
Capitalism and globalism consist of the rich taking the lion's share and leaving
Sarah Ibarruri
May 2012
#12
No. Democracy takes ahold and people demand adequate taxes on the rich. Same thing Occupy is
applegrove
May 2012
#17
Free trade as established by our trade agreements destroys democracy -- our own
JDPriestly
Jun 2012
#67
They move off the subsistence farms as American farmers did back in the 1930s
JDPriestly
May 2012
#20
'We', who is 'we' who are a 'a lot richer'? We have the largest income inequality
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#99
No, I don't have it all figured out. I just know the facts, figuring it all out is going to take a
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#108
Dictionaries and people on Jeopardy are full of facts too. Doesn't mean they accomplish much.
jtuck004
Jun 2012
#109
We've all seen the egos served and their obscene bank accounts, which is why OWS
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#110
I'll be looking for other accomplishments beyond self-aggrandizement. Thanks. n/t
jtuck004
Jun 2012
#117
Lol, cute deflection. I have potatoes to feed, more important. But you don't need to have launched a
jtuck004
Jun 2012
#120
Yeah, what you said. And u asked what I have done. Today I saw two little girls running
jtuck004
Jun 2012
#122
applegrove has no response to that. THIS is why anti-globalism is ascendant in America.
Zalatix
Jun 2012
#52
Because the rich have taken over in the usa with tax cuts and economic bubbles that they make money
applegrove
Jun 2012
#73
That is what I take issue with. Demonstrators will say they are anti-capitalist when they mean
applegrove
Jun 2012
#71
But Obama is for trade. If you say you are antiglobal trade you cut out a whole host of people in
applegrove
Jun 2012
#78
I've been hearing of the imminent demise of Occupy since the day it started
MannyGoldstein
May 2012
#3
Clearly you know of more organizations speaking truth to power? Care to share? nt
Sarah Ibarruri
May 2012
#41
I'm objecting to the change of focus from inequality onto all manner of leftist causes. I have a
applegrove
May 2012
#11
Occupy wasn't anti-NATO or anti global. It was anti-power in the hands of a few - same as Arab
applegrove
May 2012
#16
I am a big supporter of Occupy. I want to see it become a permanent world wide movement to fight the
applegrove
May 2012
#18
The rich buying the government. A lack of taxes on the rich. Credit card legislation that helps
applegrove
May 2012
#35
You are talking about what has happened to America in the last 50 years. Other countries, like mine
applegrove
May 2012
#37
Students in Quebec don't want to pay $3000 dollars a term for University. They are
applegrove
May 2012
#39
There is only a housing bubble in Toronto and Vancouver (two cities that have had high housing
applegrove
Jul 2012
#129
Occupy can neither support nor engage the very system causing all of our trouble.
Fire Walk With Me
May 2012
#42
None of them are even discussing taking back the trillions upon trillions of dollars given to banks
Fire Walk With Me
May 2012
#48
In San diego alone we had three candidates for congress in three different districts
nadinbrzezinski
Jun 2012
#106
This movement would destroy itself, if it were to do as you suggest. However, there are OWS
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#116
Instead of anti-globalization, think alter-globalization. We want FAIR trade.
limpyhobbler
May 2012
#22
Then OWS should be clear that they want to alter globalization not end it. And they should be clear
applegrove
May 2012
#44
The movement has people with diverse views who agree on some common actions.
limpyhobbler
May 2012
#45
Ah. I get it. That's why you framed the debate so well right in the subject line of your OP.
Zorra
May 2012
#32
No they are not. They are like Obama's. Like the vast majority of people in the USA. Occupy touched
applegrove
Jun 2012
#79
My ideas are the same as Obama's. That is who I follow. The right wing wins if Occupy becomes a
applegrove
Jun 2012
#85
I'm sorry but I follow Obama on trade policy. You can say 'nope' all you want. I know the right
applegrove
Jun 2012
#87
I know you're wrong. Obama signed a tariff law. You oppose tariffs. You know you're wrong.
Zalatix
Jun 2012
#88
I don't oppose tariffs. I'm for tariffs on chinese goods if they are messing with their dollar.
applegrove
Jun 2012
#91
Like Bill Clinton said, America is winning on trade except for China and the middle east. The
applegrove
Jun 2012
#93
I totally agree money is corrupting politics and the 1% have too much power. Why I want to see
applegrove
Jun 2012
#80
Against corrupt capitalism, certainly, and has been so from the beginning.
Fire Walk With Me
May 2012
#43
Considering that the majority of Americans are AGAINST offshoring, Occupy will win BIG on this one.
Zalatix
Jun 2012
#51
As a left-libertarian, I'm opposed to Occupy being co-opted by Old Left and various Old Left groups
Leopolds Ghost
Jun 2012
#63
Opposing trade agreements is wise. These trade agreements are a cover for the
JDPriestly
Jun 2012
#64
Bill Clinton pointed out in his book that the only trade the USA was not doing well on in balance
applegrove
Jun 2012
#66
He has since then admitted that his idea that we could save Haiti through trade
OrwellwasRight
Jun 2012
#77
This is the truth about free trade - it's all about keeping Chinese and Haitians poor.
Zalatix
Jun 2012
#84
Then why don't they call it 'casino capitalism' on the signs. It alienates OWS from part
applegrove
Jun 2012
#97
I highly recommend you become VERY FAMILIAR with the term HARMONIZATION
nadinbrzezinski
Jun 2012
#103
I'm not denying trade with China is bad. They are messing with their currency and should face
applegrove
Jun 2012
#104
Occupy will lose some of its support, not most of it. But it was those supporters that had woken up
applegrove
Jul 2012
#130
My point is the middle class came together over inequlity during that occupy fall. Don't we want to
applegrove
Jul 2012
#133
My terms are not skewed. I'm make an observation. Occupy appealed to over 50% of Americans
applegrove
Jul 2012
#135