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Summer Hathaway

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29. It is exactly this kind of logic

Reply to starroute (Reply #21)

Sun Sep 16, 2012, 02:01 PM

Sep 2012

(or glaring lack thereof) that illustrates why Occupy isn't to be taken seriously.

How do you go from the FBI surveilling other groups as meaning "about 5-10% of what Occupy Oakland was doing actually involved carrying out the public agenda"?

I realize that OWSies think they are the top priority for the FBI and law enforcement - but they're not.

You DO realize that both are watchful of all kinds of groups in the US - Occupy being just one of them. Therefore, internal documents could include information on those other groups' activities - things that have nothing whatsoever to do with Occupy.

I said nothing about anyone 'taking over' Occupy - that's a figment of your own paranoia, along with the persecution complex so many OWSies enjoy clinging to.

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FBI Won't Release Occupy Surveillance Documents to ACLU, Citing National Security [View all] Fire Walk With Me Sep 2012 OP

Have you seen the documents in question? Summer Hathaway Sep 2012 #1

And of course without anyone ever being able to see the documents... Raster Sep 2012 #2

Or, on the other hand Summer Hathaway Sep 2012 #4

How condescending. Perhaps the FBI should let someone else make that determination.... Raster Sep 2012 #6

You scoff at the idea Summer Hathaway Sep 2012 #7

And isn't that a conveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeenient excuse for the Govt. Downright Orwellian. MotherPetrie Sep 2012 #3

And isn't that a Summer Hathaway Sep 2012 #5

You do realize what a ridiculous line of attack this is, don't you? starroute Sep 2012 #8

Apparently you have seen the documents Summer Hathaway Sep 2012 #9

You would have made a great Soviet citizen, Comrade Summer! We should never *dare* question a police villager Sep 2012 #10

I never advocated not questioning Summer Hathaway Sep 2012 #11

It's not about assuming the documents are untoward starroute Sep 2012 #12

"It's that it's blatantly obvious the FBI is lying." Summer Hathaway Sep 2012 #13

So your scenario is that Occupy is completely infiltrated by terrorists? starroute Sep 2012 #21

It is infiltrated by terrorists tama Sep 2012 #27

It is exactly this kind of logic Summer Hathaway Sep 2012 #29

Some people would be enraged that a US agency would negate the FOIA. Fire Walk With Me Sep 2012 #19

Except we can't really question them unless we have access to the information on what they're villager Sep 2012 #14

So transparency in a democracy Summer Hathaway Sep 2012 #15

You're just killing me here. Fire Walk With Me Sep 2012 #20

+1 villager Sep 2012 #26

You are calling the ACLU liars and ignoring the FBI's unConstitutional raids upon protester's homes Fire Walk With Me Sep 2012 #18

Not arguing against the movement at all. Summer Hathaway Sep 2012 #22

Thank you for your concerns, and good bye. I'll be spending my time and energy Fire Walk With Me Sep 2012 #23

I sincerely hope you do. n/t Summer Hathaway Sep 2012 #24

Have you tama Sep 2012 #28

Do yourself a favor and put that one on ignore. girl gone mad Sep 2012 #31

Wouldn't happen to have any links Summer Hathaway Sep 2012 #32

Let me know when Summer is over antiquie Sep 2012 #16

That they have to come to a sub-forum and attack only reveals them for what they are. Fire Walk With Me Sep 2012 #17

Occupy homes antiquie Sep 2012 #25

No no, no problem, no apologies needed :) Fire Walk With Me Sep 2012 #30