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hfojvt

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60. but if you group experiences by race

Mon May 12, 2014, 11:21 AM

May 2014

then you are grouping rich and middle class blacks in with poor blacks and rich and middle class whites in with poor whites.

And that is the same argument that I have had over and over.

It is said that low income whites have privilege over low income non-whites.

But what about the REST of the country?

Low income whites generally have LESS privilege than the 80% of the country that has MORE income, and that 80% includes a whole bunch of non-whites. Why should they only look at 20% (where they may have more privilege) and ignore the 80% where they have less privilege? Is 20% of reality somehow more significant than 70-80%?

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Hell, the same ones denying male privilege are denying white privilege [View all] boston bean May 2014 OP

No one could have predicted that. Scuba May 2014 #1

Heh! ismnotwasm May 2014 #4

Yep, and I for one am sick and tired of em, especially if they also claim to be liberals randys1 May 2014 #2

Love this randy JustAnotherGen May 2014 #6

Thank you, I like it here, and I have every intention of NEVER shutting up :-) randys1 May 2014 #7

and George Clooney is worth $160 million hfojvt May 2014 #12

The measure of a person is not their wealth. boston bean May 2014 #14

if you, unlike me, can see through other spectrums hfojvt May 2014 #31

Yea liberalmike27 May 2014 #15

Well said. Louisiana1976 May 2014 #52

Then why aren't the Koch brothers happy with Obama? SunSeeker May 2014 #21

because by being unhappy with Obama hfojvt May 2014 #28

Clooney is not saying you should be "wildly cheering for Obama." SunSeeker May 2014 #40

You do know he has had bill upon bill before the House BainsBane May 2014 #35

the tax cuts were set to expire automatically - twice hfojvt May 2014 #61

Of all the things I've ever seen at DU ismnotwasm May 2014 #3

maybe it is an "invasion" of working class white males hfojvt May 2014 #11

Of course class plays a part in how people live their experiences. boston bean May 2014 #13

Class has far more to do with privilege than race Celebration May 2014 #16

These are right wing arguments regarding race, that I am reading. boston bean May 2014 #17

you didn't answer the question though hfojvt May 2014 #29

Yes ismnotwasm May 2014 #32

There was much more racial discrimination Celebration May 2014 #41

I thought we were comparing ismnotwasm May 2014 #43

Nobody has the same experience Celebration May 2014 #54

Hmm ismnotwasm May 2014 #56

but if you group experiences by race hfojvt May 2014 #60

*sigh* ismnotwasm May 2014 #68

Race is an issue Celebration May 2014 #42

Oh yes, it is what we are discussing. boston bean May 2014 #48

Poor whites have privilege compared to poor blacks. SunSeeker May 2014 #24

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #26

Poor white males are a lot less likely than poor black males to be killed by police. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #57

but why should poor people hfojvt May 2014 #62

We are talking about the big picture BainsBane May 2014 #63

not buying it already hfojvt May 2014 #65

Privilege is relative, like wealth. SunSeeker May 2014 #64

even IF that was true hfojvt May 2014 #74

I am not ignoring the 80%. You are ignoring the effect of sex and color in all classes. SunSeeker May 2014 #75

It is taking out that one kind of privilege and focusing on it - not just for poor people gollygee May 2014 #72

For white people and ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #59

He's been told that a hundred times BainsBane May 2014 #36

Possibly ismnotwasm May 2014 #30

As if the white working-class American male were the most oppressed human being on Earth... nomorenomore08 May 2014 #58

It's a Libertarian infiltration. And that's the kind interpretation. Tuesday Afternoon May 2014 #19

But sometimes ismnotwasm May 2014 #33

Just a kick and a rec JustAnotherGen May 2014 #5

There are none so blind Jackpine Radical May 2014 #8

K+R IronLionZion May 2014 #9

I combine 'em both and talk about white-boy privilege. malthaussen May 2014 #10

Post removed Post removed May 2014 #22

did you sign up just to get banned? Kali May 2014 #25

Oh, oh ....I know etherealtruth May 2014 #46

It's a perfect term BainsBane May 2014 #37

don't be surprised -if- their favorite group is GC&RKBA, too. Tuesday Afternoon May 2014 #18

"White Privilege: Now What & Other Such Fallacies" KitSileya May 2014 #20

Nice! ismnotwasm May 2014 #34

Thanks for posting this. redqueen May 2014 #44

Thanks for posting this. wavesofeuphoria May 2014 #67

They also are the ones that deny that they're the ones that farted.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #23

Well, why... thank you, I guess.... boston bean May 2014 #39

I truly think that many are simply trolls. Really. Squinch May 2014 #27

Not surprising in the least, unfortunately theHandpuppet May 2014 #38

That shit comparing bell hooks to Bill O'Reilly really pissed me off BainsBane May 2014 #45

Desperation. n/t MadrasT May 2014 #49

Sadly, I think this is something well recognized etherealtruth May 2014 #47

I think that's very true ismnotwasm May 2014 #50

i also notice many are the same ones who complain about political correctness JI7 May 2014 #51

Excellent thread. K&R Louisiana1976 May 2014 #53

I made a try at explaining it simply BainsBane May 2014 #55

I'm placing their denials in the same category as the people who get offended when Cosmos comes on a LanternWaste May 2014 #66

Damn! ismnotwasm May 2014 #69

Perfect. nt redqueen May 2014 #70

That summarizes why I have stayed out of those threads. MadrasT May 2014 #71

Same here theHandpuppet May 2014 #73

I do admit I am amazed at how many alleged liberals or democrats randys1 May 2014 #76