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History of Feminism

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theHandpuppet

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Mon Aug 4, 2014, 01:41 PM Aug 2014

'Those women are more oppressed' is a terrible argument against feminism [View all]

It's pretty obvious from reading the comments to Valenti's piece that there are a lot of people who really, really don't get it.

'Those women are more oppressed' is a terrible argument against feminism
Beware the enthusiasm shown by anti-feminists for international women’s rights in a fight about equality at home
Jessica Valenti
theguardian.com, Monday 4 August 2014

When I wrote last week about the #WomenAgainstFeminism campaign, I expected some pushback: arguing that women are a victimized class is a surefire way to rile people up. But the theme of this recent criticism was that American women don’t have legitimate grievances because other women have it worse – and that’s telling.

One gentleman emailed to say he wanted to send me “to a place like Saudi Arabia where women are REALLY disadvantaged and oppressed”. Apparently women don’t have the right to complain about discrimination unless it’s explicit and international.

Interestingly, this guy is not the first to suggest that American women ought to stop working for equality here and exclusively seek to help women abroad. It’s amazing how many international women’s rights enthusiasts come out of the woodwork when you dare suggest that there’s room for women’s rights to advance in the US.

I’m wary of broadly painting Western women as universally less oppressed than others – there are actually many ways the US lags behind other countries on women’s rights, like political representation, corporate power and parental leave – but it is true that American women have more legal rights than women in some other countries. Saudi Arabia is the only country in the world where women aren’t allowed to drive. In Afghanistan, a woman can go to jail for leaving her abusive husband. Brazilian women can’t access abortions, nor can women in Ireland. According to a 2011 UN report, 127 countries don’t explicitly outlaw marital rape....

MORE at http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/04/international-women-oppression-feminism


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Excellent piece. CrispyQ Aug 2014 #1
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #8
Awww.... Sheldon Cooper Aug 2014 #9
Yes, we want nothing more than to be victims BainsBane Aug 2014 #18
look at you. an active troll. i have been seeing name removed, a lot of late, seabeyond Aug 2014 #19
Talk about needing something to whine about. Look in the mirror arcane1 Aug 2014 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #12
Indeed BainsBane Aug 2014 #2
Excellent point theHandpuppet Aug 2014 #3
Excellent, thanks for posting this redqueen Aug 2014 #4
excellent article mercuryblues Aug 2014 #5
you should be happy you are not living in..... seabeyond Aug 2014 #6
You're back! MadrasT Aug 2014 #13
For a little while, anyway seabeyond Aug 2014 #14
did you get booted again? niyad Aug 2014 #21
No doubt gollygee Aug 2014 #7
Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #10
Ya. That. And how stupid does that sound. Nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #15
Certainly hasn't kept people from using it a million times theHandpuppet Aug 2014 #16
ah.... the smell of privilege and entitlement. nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author dawg Aug 2014 #20
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