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In reply to the discussion: HOF Post: 'Getting Off: Pornography and the End of Masculinity' [View all]redqueen
(115,177 posts)19. Some quotes from pornographers (TRIGGER WARNING, NSFW):
"These chicks are our natural enemy...It is time we do battle with them...What I want is a devastating piece that takes the militant feminists apart...They are unalterably opposed to the romantic boy-girl image that Playboy promotes."
-- Hugh Hefner , Memo to staff members, cited by Karen Jacobs, "Patterns of Violence", The Harvard Women's Law Journal (1984), quoted in Diana Russell, Making Violence sexy ; 1993.
"I don't care if a baby holds up a Playboy bunny rattle."
-- Hugh Hefner , when asked by the Washington Post what he thought of kids wearing Playboy -logo clothing and accessories, quoted in Pamela Paul, Pornified , 2005.
"Women are here to serve men. Look at them, they got to squat to piss. Hell, that proves it."
-- Larry Flynt , Hustler 's publisher, quoted on The Anti-porn Resource Center (oneangrygirl.net/antiporn.html).
"There are those who say illogic is the native tongue of anything with tits...(women) speak not from the heart but from the gash, and chances are that at least once a month your chick will stop you dead in your tracks with a masterpiece of cunt rhetoric...the one surefire way to stop those feminine lips from driving you crazy is to put something between them -- like your cock, for instance."
-- Hustler Magazine , quoted on The Anti-porn Resource Center (oneangrygirl.net/antiporn.html).
"T.T. reflects exactly what that sort of porno is about," senior video editor Bud Swope said, "where you screw the hell out of the woman and come all over her face. He throws girls around. He pile-drives till they protest...He's just aggression." In an interview in the April 1995 issue of Hustler Erotic Video Guide, T.T. Boy had this to say: "I was a shy little kid when I started, and now I'm just a guy who wants to fuck the shit out of all these girls. Just fuck 'em to death."
-- Bud Swope and T. T. Boy , quoted in Susan Faludi's 'Stiffed'.
"I enjoy watching people in pleasure, being pleasured, especially women. And that's the focus of my tapes. The woman's orgasm, the woman's pleasure. How it happens -- whether it be a fist or a penis, or a squash -- to me, it doesn't necessarily matter. That's within my personal realms of what's OK."
-- Adam Glasser , actor and producer of porn films (Source: pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/porn/interviews/glasser.html).
"Rocco [Siffredi] has far more power in this industry than any actress... I was the first to shoot Rocco. Together we evolved toward rougher stuff. He started to spit on girls. A strong male-dominant thing, with women being pushed to their limit. It looks like violence but it's not. I mean, pleasure and pain are the same thing, right? Rocco is driven by the market. What makes it in today's market place is reality."
-- John Stagliano , pornographer, quoted in Martin Amis' "A Rough Trade", The Guardian , March 17, 2001.
"I'd like to really show what I believe the men want to see: violence against women. I firmly believe that we serve a purpose by showing that. The most violent we can get is the cum shot in the face. Men get off behind that, because they get even with the women they can't have. We try to inundate the world with orgasms in the face."
-- Bill Margold , porn industry veteran, quoted in Robert J. Stoller and I. S. Levine, Coming Attractions: The Making of an X-rated video ; 1993.
"People just want it harder, harder, and harder, because like Ron said, what are you gonna do next?"
-- Jerome Tanner , "AVN Directors Roundtable", Adult Video News , January 2003.
"We do a series called Cocktails -- it's pretty repugnant. Girls have sex by a couple guys, and the guys and the girl, they have sex with her, and she's giving fellatio and she's hacking up boogies in a bowl. And they're spitting in the bowl. And then she'll think she's vomiting in the bowl, and at the end they come in the bowl. And then she drinks it all down. That's pretty repugnant. (Laughs) Sometimes we do a fellatio line, where the girl's giving fellatio, and she's gagging so much she vomits. ... It's repugnant. It is, Yes. We've got tons of stuff they technically could arrest us for. And when this happened, I put on our website -- I made a big speech: I welcome the LAPD to come on down. I said, Come and get me, I said, "Because we won't go down without a fight. We will fight this. Regardless of the cost, we will fight it. We will take it to the airwaves."
-- Rob Black , Extreme Associates (Source: pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/porn/interviews/black.html).
"People want more. They want to know how many dicks you can shove up an ass... It's like Fear Factor meets Jackass. Make it more hard, make it more nasty, make it more relentless. The guys make the difference. You need a good guy, who's been around and can give a good scene, fuckin'em hard. I did my homework. These guys are intense."
-- Mitchell Spinelli , interviewed while filming the video "Give me Gape", Adult Video News , September 2004.
"It's like a dog marking its territory. You know, why do dogs pee on fire hydrants and trees? I don't know. It's just like a man will leave his mark on a woman. You see something beautiful, you've got to let them know you were there."
--Pornographer Brandon Iron , explaining why men like to ejaculate onto womens faces, quoted on The Anti-porn Resource Center (oneangrygirl.net/antiporn.html).
"Women were born with three holes for one purpose: To cram a cock deep inside every cuddly cavity! Like true cock sockets, our whores subject their beautiful bodies to the nastiest 4-way debauchery ever lensed. We capture five starry-eyed sluts getting wild and testing the limits of carnal cock-consumption. They redefine raunchy and stretch the limits of ass, mouth, and pussy penetration."
-- Promotional copy for Zero Tolerance - No Holes Barred .
"My whole reason for being in this Industry is to satisfy the desire of the men in the world who basically don't much care for women and want to see the men in my Industry getting even with the women they couldn't have when they were growing up. I strongly believe this... so we come on a woman's face or somewhat brutalize her sexually: we're getting even for their lost dreams. I believe this. I've heard audiences cheer me when I do something foul on screen. When I've strangled a person or sodomized a person, or brutalized a person, the audience is cheering my action, and then when I've fulfilled my warped desire, the audience applauds."
-- Bill Margold , porn industry veteran and Free Speech Coalition board member.
"There's nothing I love more than when a girl insists to me that she won't take a cock in her ass, because -- oh yes she will !"
-- Max Hardcore , interviewed in Hustler (June 1995).
"We at Pure Filth know exactly what you want, and we're giving it to you. Chicks being ass-fucked till their sphincters are pink, puffy and totally blown out. Adult diapers just might be in store for these whores when their work is done."
-- Promotional copy for "Anally Ripped Whores" .
"Max fucks chicks he finds the way you like to -- getting cute cunts on his couch. Using their tight holes to pleasure his stiff cock. Max turns ordinary teens and mother's [sic] alike into piss and cum-splattered sluts before your eyes... Max wastes no time, gagging girls on his cock and pissing down their throats before he even learns their email addresses! Max is the originator of rectal-boring action -- gaping assholes, and fisting cunts... Max also uses speculums to pry-open their fuck-holes so you can look deep inside. Hell spray his cum and piss into the gaping tunnels, even making them drink it out of their ass! Whether its [sic] naïve teen or classy broad, Max delivers the same ruthless treatment."
-- Excerpt of " Max Hardcore Biography ", Max Hardcore official website (Source: maxhardcore.com/whoismax/index.htm). [Accessed 07/08/2007]
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I will watch the video and thanks for posting it here or anywhere on DU.
Tuesday Afternoon
Aug 2014
#1
True, but they can be banned from HOF if they break the SOP of the group. I understand your feeling.
freshwest
Aug 2014
#2
Yes, It is usually a good idea to preface an OP with HoF warning. Although, even that cuts both ways
Tuesday Afternoon
Aug 2014
#3
How does one educate someone that does not sit still long enough to listen and is too
Tuesday Afternoon
Aug 2014
#14
Leave it up, if for no other reason than to be a burr in the side to some.
Tuesday Afternoon
Aug 2014
#12
'to qualify every discussion criticizing porn with the mantra 'but some of it isn't so bad!' is the
freshwest
Aug 2014
#25
Anyone lurking DU and finding such will despise Democrats unless they are part of the problem.
freshwest
Aug 2014
#31
"In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends"
redqueen
Aug 2014
#41
Sorry about the self delete, redqueen. Need some time to think and compose a carefully worded reply.
Tuesday Afternoon
Aug 2014
#39
I am glad to hear that girls and young women are fed up! They will be living with this for years.
freshwest
Aug 2014
#21
Where are the men now? Who among the DU men will read that in it's entirety and what will
Tuesday Afternoon
Aug 2014
#35
Well, I'm a DU male, and it doesn't look like anyone else is answering you.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Aug 2014
#48
I have heard of Nina Hartley. It is the go to reply for this type of question.
Tuesday Afternoon
Aug 2014
#59
I have talked more porn these past few months than I have in my whole life
Tuesday Afternoon
Aug 2014
#63
The 'Free Speech Coalition' group. Priceless. Women excluded from membership, obviously.
freshwest
Aug 2014
#23
It's about the money. The 'women' I spoke of are the women in the films. No voice for them.
freshwest
Aug 2014
#26
Oh yeah, they just get ignored, unless their opinions align with the industry's.
redqueen
Aug 2014
#27
I want a woman to come in here and tell me they are turned on by what they just read in that post.
Tuesday Afternoon
Aug 2014
#36
I often wonder if those who so enthusiastically defend other people's right to porn ever look at it.
redqueen
Aug 2014
#47
okay but, they are called actors for a reason. You understand where I learned all this
Tuesday Afternoon
Aug 2014
#65
yes, and sorry about the self delete. I replied to myself and so I remedied it while you were
Tuesday Afternoon
Aug 2014
#71
ha. but I had already self deleted before I realized you had replied and I was reposting when you
Tuesday Afternoon
Aug 2014
#73