History of Feminism

dawg

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14. "Women seem wicked, when you're unwanted ...

Wed Jan 14, 2015, 11:15 AM

Jan 2015

streets are uneven, when you're down.

When you're strange, faces come out of the rain ...."

Jim had this one sussed out all those years ago.

But I think most of the nerd bashing I have read lately has been overblown. These guys (and OMG, maybe I'm one of them) are victims of the same patriarchal society that oppresses women.

Because to the patriarchy, just being a man isn't enough. You have to be a *manly* man, with plenty of money and a gorgeous woman at your side. Otherwise, you are a loser. That is the message society has been sending to boys for years now.

Some of the "nerds" internalize that message, feel that they will never measure up, and blame women for it. But the real problem is the society that put all those crazy notions in their heads in the first place.

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The plight of the bitter nerd: Why so many awkward, shy guys end up hating feminism (Salon) [View all] YoungDemCA Jan 2015 OP

They Came From Things Inside His Head JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #1

Check out Laurie Penny's article on "Nerd Entitlement" YoungDemCA Jan 2015 #2

Their pain isnt real. ncjustice80 Jan 2015 #13

Long-term loneliness and lack of relationships is plenty painful for lots of people, myself included nomorenomore08 Jan 2015 #33

Is it terribly wrong for me to want to just 'slap him upside his head' so he can have both? freshwest Jan 2015 #3

Naaaah! JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #4

Thank You! freshwest Jan 2015 #5

Yeah, I got that too ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #6

There's a lot of that going around lately! JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #8

Yup ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #10

Craziness! ismnotwasm Jan 2015 #12

It's the overwhelming failure of not being King Demeter Jan 2015 #7

My husband calls it the bubble JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #9

So glad you posted this ismnotwasm Jan 2015 #11

"Women seem wicked, when you're unwanted ... dawg Jan 2015 #14

here is where i sit now. having raised two boys that were not the "in" seabeyond Jan 2015 #15

I don't think any of these nerds feel privileged or dominant. They envy the so-called ... dawg Jan 2015 #16

here is the thing. it is about privilege while they see it or not. it a "i deserve" as you state. seabeyond Jan 2015 #17

It *is* about privilege. But these guys aren't privileged when it comes to relationships. dawg Jan 2015 #18

It has nothing to do with being awkward or shy, imo. Plenty of likable, outgoing men are also raging chrisa Jan 2015 #19

I was an awkward shy guy when I was younger, but I never was a bitter person. MineralMan Jan 2015 #20

why should a man insist on impressing many women with his physical/mental prowess? instead Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2015 #21

It's about not being macho. And they are considered abnormal in the larger society. Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2015 #22

yes, I understand .... actually I was speaking to the macho type male and their mindset Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2015 #23

Smart nearly men ismnotwasm Jan 2015 #24

exactly. in these conversations, it is huge concern they cannot attract the "hot" woman. as if owed seabeyond Jan 2015 #25

I have a nerdy 20 year old azmom Jan 2015 #29

I really liked that article. I particularly think the distinction between what happens in reality el_bryanto Jan 2015 #26

Ok. From a shy, lonely nerd to the other shy, lonely nerds out there: DetlefK Jan 2015 #27

and get over the myth there is only adventure and provider. many women self provide. seabeyond Jan 2015 #28

I meant provider in an emotional sense, not a material one. DetlefK Jan 2015 #31

ah. thank you for clarification. i saw the examples for sure, but seabeyond Jan 2015 #32

Looks/brains are not an either-or. Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2015 #30

"I think the awkward guys blaming feminism are blaming the wrong thing." nomorenomore08 Jan 2015 #34

Reading these kinds of articles, I always find myself thinking, "It could have been me." nomorenomore08 Jan 2015 #35