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seabeyond

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47. this is where conversation in feminism always goes. regardless of the number of times feminists

Sun Jan 18, 2015, 10:13 AM

Jan 2015

address this.

i stand for a persons free speech.
i stand for a persons to ownership of a gun.

i do not play in the ugly. the racism, misogyny, homohobia. nor do i like guns and i know the issues with them.

what so many do in argument on du, is reduce us to wanting to deny a person right to speech.

the reality. what we feminists on du really experience, is.... when we use our voice, when we use our $ to to challenge, we are told that is unacceptable.

that would be the mahers of the group. that would be many in this issue of free speech and charlie.

maher says.... we are not allowed to use the power of our dollar and voice to challenge this open racism, misogyny, homophobia.

i do not accept the argument. the premise. the demand.

and i do not resort to the ugly, challenging it either. but i do have the right, and a personal expectation to call it out.

that is different from banning.

and the little hypocrisy of france. its racism, and misogyny i know for a fact. yelling about their freedom as they deny others theirs.

i cannot... not cal that shit out.

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here is the thing. we have become such an ugly people, saying whatever offensive thing we want, [View all] seabeyond Jan 2015 OP

Are you referring to DU or society in general. DU is governed by terms still_one Jan 2015 #1

du isnt "governed" by shit. it is governed by the same society seabeyond Jan 2015 #2

This: ^^^ CrispyQ Jan 2015 #7

I think so too. shenmue Jan 2015 #26

seems I have to keep reminding myself that people have the right to be as stupid Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2015 #3

and then, get a hide. lol. nt seabeyond Jan 2015 #4

I call those Badges of Honor ... lol Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2015 #5

In theory, we should have the same Freedom of Speech to call out the racism and sexism TDale313 Jan 2015 #6

no. du does not have to be a cesspool. that is in the business plan/control of the owners. nt seabeyond Jan 2015 #8

Exactly right. TDale313 Jan 2015 #9

The general lack of civility and downright ugliness on DU brer cat Jan 2015 #10

off topic = my cat is in my lap and is mesmerized by the gif in your sigline Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2015 #11

I was mad at my cat for being noisy so I put cat fights on. ismnotwasm Jan 2015 #13

lol ... you gave her ideas Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2015 #18

Good kitty. brer cat Jan 2015 #15

oh. very nice. Welcome to forever home lucky cat. Pictures will be required, you know. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2015 #19

Here you go. brer cat Jan 2015 #24

ah, thanks! off to look, now - Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2015 #25

you hijacked my thread and changed it to a cat thread. lmFao. only on the nets. seabeyond Jan 2015 #20

lol ... believe it or not - Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2015 #21

i know. that was what was awesome about this cat. not stupid. is trainable, lol seabeyond Jan 2015 #23

That +300 thread really bugged me ismnotwasm Jan 2015 #12

Amen to all you said. brer cat Jan 2015 #14

Heh! ismnotwasm Jan 2015 #16

It's like talking to Dittoheads, very much so. freshwest Jan 2015 #17

that pouty bottom lip is stuck out so far we can walk on it. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2015 #22

The "uglieness on DU" thing is overstated. cheapdate Jan 2015 #27

You do not have the constitutional right to not be offended bluestateguy Jan 2015 #28

wow. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2015 #41

go to iran? that is so rw seabeyond Jan 2015 #43

Gotta love JTFrog Jan 2015 #53

The best strategy, in this case, is to consider the source siligut Jan 2015 #54

That's kind of harsh, don't you think? KamaAina Jan 2015 #59

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2015 #29

Take your ineffective penis someplace else. arcane1 Jan 2015 #30

Preserved: Sheldon Cooper Jan 2015 #31

Thanks, I'll need that if my post gets alerted :) arcane1 Jan 2015 #32

thank you DonCoquixote Jan 2015 #34

you and i are basically disagreeing on this. you know what i told someone the other day? seabeyond Jan 2015 #46

in this case DonCoquixote Jan 2015 #57

wow. a real keeper there. seabeyond Jan 2015 #45

Please tell me this person was tombstoned immediately after that post whathehell Jan 2015 #52

Good work, thank you. T'was a true cretin, that one. siligut Jan 2015 #55

Don't you have a Hitler rally to get to? BainsBane Jan 2015 #33

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2015 #35

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2015 #37

i know two posters on DI, who sent a good time on DU, that would say seabeyond Jan 2015 #44

Only two? BainsBane Jan 2015 #50

ya. i was saying again, above and had to revise a little. seabeyond Jan 2015 #51

the issue is abuse DonCoquixote Jan 2015 #36

this is where conversation in feminism always goes. regardless of the number of times feminists seabeyond Jan 2015 #47

and i do not resort to the ugly, challenging it either. but i do have the right, and a personal expe DonCoquixote Jan 2015 #58

ya. i know you do not either, lol. nt seabeyond Jan 2015 #61

one thing to clarify DonCoquixote Jan 2015 #60

to learn how to diffuse rather than to escalate a situation takes some diplomatic skill Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2015 #38

We do it all the time at work ismnotwasm Jan 2015 #39

yes, but, it is not the norm to learn how to do this and, even then I need a place where I can Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2015 #40

Heh! ismnotwasm Jan 2015 #42

we do this all the time, in our lives, when we choose to not purposely be offensive. seabeyond Jan 2015 #49

I understand ismnotwasm Jan 2015 #56

meeting a man yesterday. my nieces new BF. mid twenties. military. seabeyond Jan 2015 #48