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Novara

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17. That's not what I said.

Mon Apr 20, 2015, 11:54 AM

Apr 2015

how can you suggest rarely having abortions is wrong when we have access to so many different choices that will avoid an invasive procedure that cause pain and costs more and is more timely, the effort large, and aftermath more effecting.

I never said that. Please don't put words in my mouth. Limiting abortion is wrong. Abortion is already becoming rarer with each passing day. So Far, 2015 Is On Pace to Set Abortion Restriction Records

Every single day, fewer women have access to abortion. And what happens when abortion is rare? Women die. Unwanted children are born. Women resort to illegal abortion.

I'm saying that in our current reality and the current anti-women political climate, we can't reduce abortions because many women can't even get birth control. Making birth control free and ubiquitous should be the goal, not focusing on making abortions harder to get.

You want a perfect world where we eliminate the need for abortion. In our current political climate, this can't happen. Thus, making abortions even more rare will only hurt women.

You said we have access to different choices. We DON'T. We really don't. That's my point. And as long as we don't, as a society we can't afford to make abortion more rare.

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stand firm. i like what and how clinton addresses abortion. [View all] seabeyond Apr 2015 OP

Let girl/woman do what she needs to do and it's none of our business anyway. HIPPA laws should brewens Apr 2015 #1

Some guys have arrived in that other thread DURHAM D Apr 2015 #2

i just put my toe back into that thread. and i got the but but but, she said rare. seabeyond Apr 2015 #3

Don't bother. DURHAM D Apr 2015 #5

Fall apart of course ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #4

In my experience with this issue, the further difficult question arises when CTyankee Apr 2015 #6

Choice is choice ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #7

I think their bitterness was in large part due to the fact that they were enduring CTyankee Apr 2015 #8

I can see that ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #10

Some of the clinging to religion is defensiveness, people say their kids are a burden on society. freshwest Apr 2015 #11

Okay, I see what your saying concerning that thread... AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #9

here is the thing. having listened to speech, reacted to the word rare, then taking it in context seabeyond Apr 2015 #12

I'll bet you money they didn't actually listen to the speech ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #13

You noticed that too, didn't you. Because I sure have. n/t freshwest Apr 2015 #28

It was a fantastic reply Novara Apr 2015 #14

I'm one of those who think that by wanting abortion to be rare is wrong seabeyond Apr 2015 #15

That's not what I said. Novara Apr 2015 #17

that is exactly what you said. i copy and pasted your sentence seabeyond Apr 2015 #18

Read what I wrote Novara Apr 2015 #21

i stopped where i wanted to address. because it falls at the beginning is not my problem. seabeyond Apr 2015 #22

Making abortion rare is logically limiting them. Novara Apr 2015 #23

That segues into my point about abortion being a surgical procedure ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #24

you continue to ignore what she is actually saying, regardless of me showing you how fool hearty seabeyond Apr 2015 #25

I'm a nurse so I see it from a medical POV ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #16

The fact that she is repeating it "after her work for women's justice is disturbing." Novara Apr 2015 #19

Isn't that what I said? ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #20

Perfect. I agree with every word. Nye Bevan Apr 2015 #26

you are so obvious. ya ya , i get it. it is there for me to see, not all. seabeyond Apr 2015 #27

Heh! ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #29