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F4lconF16

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9. I don't disagree with any of that.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 12:21 PM
Apr 2015

My issue is that I don't think social and economic issues can be separated, and indeed, I think it's the greatest problem within the Democratic Party and liberal movements as a whole. You say that we have a pattern of othering groups of people based on skin color or ethnicity, or gender, and that is what leads to inequality. I would argue that the pattern of othering groups comes most strongly from economic motivations, inextricably linking them.

A good example is that of mass incarceration. The drug war is racist, but above all it is about profit. They use racism to dehumanize and justify the assault on a people, just like they do with Iraqis and Afghans. That social issue (mass incarceration, racism, police brutality) is not separable from the economic background. To attempt to solve the racial issue without addressing the profit issue will not solve anything just as the reverse is true.

I think you might find this OP I wrote a few days ago interesting: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026584017

Apologies for the length, I will be rewriting that and reposting that at some point in the future.

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This F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #1
thank you. and to be clear. i used fuck instead of fug, cause a juror said they would hide me, if seabeyond Apr 2015 #2
Bahaha did they really? F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #4
yes i am. screwed either way, that is. fug it. seabeyond Apr 2015 #5
Love the graphic GeoWilliam750 May 2015 #29
lol lol geo. all over the place. ah ha.... seabeyond May 2015 #30
Well. Obama said to the toadys at the WHCD, 'Bucket.' He didn't mean a mop and bucket, either... n/t freshwest Apr 2015 #20
Love this ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #3
You say it has to happen before economic justice... F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #6
We are human first ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #7
we are already on an unlevel economic playing field. we cannot start equality on an unlevel field. seabeyond Apr 2015 #8
I don't disagree with any of that. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #9
Interesting, and very well written--thank you (I like long posts when they are good) ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #10
I was messaging with another member today JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #12
excellent post. nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #13
Beautiful. n/t freshwest Apr 2015 #25
Our system seems based on divide and conquer GeoWilliam750 May 2015 #31
Because the highly touted economics first crowd of old, were about protecting white males. freshwest Apr 2015 #21
I never answer you? F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #22
I have edited it a lot, so kindly take a look at the finished work to reply. TIA. n/t freshwest Apr 2015 #23
Will do. nt F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #24
I will not be able to get to this until at least tomorrow night F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #27
My advice would be not to let the sideshow on DU BainsBane Apr 2015 #11
yes. sanders needs to be an advocate to black, women and gays. obama was good with our issues, seabeyond Apr 2015 #14
Do you know that he hasn't? BainsBane Apr 2015 #15
i know he absolutely supports us all, and his vote is there. no.... i have not heard him the seabeyond Apr 2015 #16
He seems very pro-woman, as well as--100% rating from NARAL ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #17
his vote is absolutely there. i want more. clinton promises more. our women, blacks and gays seabeyond Apr 2015 #18
Exactly ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #19
Here's an OP that I posted. To make it faster for you, here it is: freshwest Apr 2015 #26
This is very cool ismnotwasm May 2015 #28
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