my 17 yr old son told me... voting for clinton, with ALL sanders will give us...(uppermiddle/middle) [View all]

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voting for clinton because she is a woman. is just stupid.

this is what my 17 yr old son told me last night. after a weeks of listening, he came to this conclusion.

wow. brilliant. where else am i hearing that. woman. just cause a woman. men are actually challenging clinton supporters, as my son did last night. gunna vote for her cause she is a woman. and roll the eyes.

i saw this develop. i told the story as we went, as we created just this, for the last handful of days. oh. and what i have gotten back from sander supporters. no "true" sander supporters would discuss the difference of social justice and economic justice. i am not declaring for clinton. no gotcha moment here, for those waiting and looking for them. i get that what i type, will not actually be used in any conversation we have.

this is my experience and beliefs. i have been clear from day one, repeatedly. cause it is so a DUH.... in obvious. lol. a 4 yr old can do this.

i saw and stated bluntly. prior to sanders declaring, he was jumping in the race. sanders has an audience. youths, middle/upper middle, and males. he is gonna jump on that economics and fix the system that most effects.... what?

he has a huge audience. the youth. middle/upper middle, especially male. demographics. no more. being the practical male, you all can recognize demographics for what it is. no emotion or hysteria i assure you. just talking numbers.



there is a lot of conversation in this simple act, and what transpired. the accusations and demands, as a sanders supporter. i felt there was a lot more conversation we should have to address something very real, as a sander supporter.

it has gotten so extreme, i am now being accused that i am repeatedly saying sanders is.... racist and sexist.

my son does social media. hey all, i called that one, too. i said msm wont win smearing sanders cause he has social media and that is where his people are. you know. youth and middle/uppermiddle?

the meme coming from sander supporters, gunna vote for her cause a woman? (how silly is that, am i right?)

i am being accused of calling sanders a racist and sexist. am i being labeled as one of these mystical "puma" that i am now seeing sanders supporters pointing the finger? you you... you are a puma. i didnt even know the subject in 2008. i was obama, and i was focused on what he was doing, saying, what we would likely get with him as opposed to clinton. you know, the practical, facts.

i cannot even link to a definition of social justice and economic justice, which is the conversation. as i very much stay on point. what i am focusing on, because it is defining the campaigns and that is what this primary is all about. (someone mention it is only a couple days into the campaign. again, i have continually said, we are only a couple days in. we have to watch and see).

why?

cause son and i are now locking horns.... a 17 yr old boy. meh, not really. we talk and listen. wonderful skills in communication. that i have educated, accepted and embraced, encouraged his brilliance and independent thought all his life. telling me. my considerations are stupid. where would he be getting that from?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026614014

this is what i got for a simple conversation to try and start from the beginning. to re focus on the issue. the difference in social justice and economic justice. the vast majority in this thread have been fighting with me for 3 yrs, that economic justice was priority. we know each others messages.

by definition that is what sanders campaign is running on. in his own words. economic populist.

my son loves political economics and looking at going into the field, in college. he is getting his first taste. he is, what i was, at that age. we have an easy conversation with political economics. he and i have been discussing sanders since the day my son walked into the house and says, sanders is thinking about jumping into the race. he cant win. he is a socialist.

i told my son, sanders would be his candidate if he listened to what sanders says.

he is now a solid supporter. first time voter.

dont tell me, i do not know what i am talking about, or being mean to or.... that i am saying, sanders is a racist and sexist.

as a feminist. let us hear, all the reasons this is not gonna fly. i get to start (actually, i am not feeling well, gonna lay down), because i have been doing a lot of listening and thinking over the last week. (while in pain, from a cracked tooth i didnt know about and an infection developing).

i a still not up to it and not getting in that mess. as a feminist. on a democratic progressive board. talking about our two candidates and their campaign assets. i think we can have a reasoned discussion, what i am seeing happening. and again i have to say, totally fascinating. i knew this election was going to be a real learning experience.