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ismnotwasm

(42,642 posts)
8. Sanders is a great guy
Tue May 5, 2015, 11:48 AM
May 2015

Who has sparked the imagination of the left, opened a door thought closed forever. He also, in my opinion, cannot win the presidency--he has a much better shot at the nomination. If Sanders wins the nomination, Republicans would have to fuck up much worse than Sarah Palin to lose. He also has to deal with the political process as it is and not how he thinks it should be. Obama has a hell of a time getting shit done. Sanders would have a much worse time dealing with a system that is broken in so many places. Clinton has vast amounts of experience with this system, and she knows how to negotiate it. She has contacts on every level of politics, including a round understanding of our foreign policy. She was trying to 'fix' healthcare over 20 years ago and was roundly rejected because of it. She's tough. She's a surviver in very dangerous political waters. That fact that she's a woman in the U.S. --a county not any more excited about women in politics, and a great deal less excited than some--is simply gravy, and precedent.


We are dealing (underneath every political opinion) with unstated Racism and sexism. People want to pretend politics are post-racial, post-sexism, when we are facing the biggest crisis challenging women's rights since Roe, and young black men are being shot in the street.

The ACA for instance is not understood, and roundly hated by the right/libertarians--who make up around half the vote. Look at RW political sights, and using the hatred and misinformation about Obama and Clinton they will be voting against them, if not for, any actual candidate.

So while Sanders fits closer to my personal political nirvana, and he's by no means radical enough when it gets right down to it, at this point I don't believe he can deliver what he's talking about. I believe Clinton can.

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To the rest who reason they WANT a woman, offer them Condi Rice! Still want a woman? TheNutcracker May 2015 #1
lazy statement and not worth any kind of conversation what so ever. oh, and as predicted, nothing seabeyond May 2015 #3
Your son is the first person I've heard say anything about Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #2
i do not imagine it has been said to you erich. no surprise there. ya think? seabeyond May 2015 #4
Very little is 'said to me' directly. I'm not out in public much. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #5
you do not find it surprising, you might miss a post that is saying, ... gonna vote clinton cause seabeyond May 2015 #6
Wasn't sure where you were headed with that inference. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #7
ok. you have not seen it. i have and i have addressed it. further, ... one of my examples is a seabeyond May 2015 #12
Again, as I said, I'm sure it's out there. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #15
who the fuck cares erich, the number. i am not here to qualify, and i have seabeyond May 2015 #17
Sanders is a great guy ismnotwasm May 2015 #8
You do realize Sanders has been in Congress for quite a while, right? Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #9
I absolutely understand that ismnotwasm May 2015 #13
yes. that is a strong position/assest for him. his decades in congress. nt seabeyond May 2015 #16
i have considered what sanders wants, and what he will be able to do. even if hired, seabeyond May 2015 #14
I think bottom line is we have two great candidates ismnotwasm May 2015 #18
yes, he has a consistent pro social issue voting record. yes, i can enthusiastically vote either. nt seabeyond May 2015 #19
here's an example. when i hear that we have a state senator in texas? stating that women carry dead seabeyond May 2015 #10
here is another. a good video in that group. seabeyond May 2015 #11
There's a big difference between voting for a candidate because she's a woman and ... dawg May 2015 #20
+1000 ismnotwasm May 2015 #21
thank you. yes. this is the point i did not make well. nt seabeyond May 2015 #23
because of course this country's politics has been driven geek tragedy May 2015 #22
Guns BainsBane May 2015 #24
it is interesting. this is what had me thinking with my particular issue, as i saw seabeyond May 2015 #25
The sad fact is DonCoquixote May 2015 #26
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