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merrily

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134. The OP revised after I posted that.

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:27 PM

Jul 2015

As far the speech the OP referred to--at least originally-- it was before the firefighters' union, with 47% of its members being Republican. I don't know which percentage of the audience was male. Bernie was trying to find common ground.

Further, the issues in which the audience was interested were federal grants to firefighters via Homeland Security, union rights, etc. AFAIK from media reports, no candidate present, Democratic or Republican, spoke to reproductive rights, including O'Malley.

Meanwhile, Bernie has a 100% rating from NARAL on reproductive rights and a ZERO rating from a pro-life group. And I have heard him speak to reproductive rights. I have not heard all his speeches, but I did catch the one in Colorado live on C-Span. he mentioned reproductive rights in that speech. In fact, he mentioned most of the things he allegedly never mentions.

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Sanders brushes aside abortion "Lets have our differences " - what the fuck? [View all] bettyellen Jun 2015 OP

Hillary saying marriage is a bond between a man and a woman . orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #1

He mentions abortion is something he can "agree to disagree" about. bettyellen Jun 2015 #5

I could not find those words in the article linked in your OP. Neither could the find feature of my merrily Jun 2015 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog Jun 2015 #79

"I know that there are differences in this room on abortion..." brer cat Jul 2015 #133

The OP revised after I posted that. merrily Jul 2015 #134

Thanks. brer cat Jul 2015 #135

You're very welcome. merrily Jul 2015 #136

Where? Where does he mention that? merrily Jun 2015 #41

Thanks , I didn't know he cosponcered this " Excluding Us " Act orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #53

They know his legislative record is great. That's why the OP reads as it does. merrily Jun 2015 #71

Are these people Hillary supporters or Koch Brothers ? orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #85

Oh by the way Merrily and Me are still waiting...Crickets orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #54

Except that since then, her views have changed shenmue Jun 2015 #20

Before or after President Obama came out for it? merrily Jun 2015 #31

Notice how the attention is diverted from reproductive rights BainsBane Jun 2015 #39

It's weird how The convo veers to attacks on Clinton or Obama bettyellen Jun 2015 #62

Utterly predictable BainsBane Jun 2015 #68

You'll notice lgbt's got tossed under the same bus. okasha Jun 2015 #132

Stop saying that until you can post him saying that . orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #63

I was talking about YOU BainsBane Jun 2015 #66

Have you looked at his record? Seriously? think Jun 2015 #64

Have you read the article? BainsBane Jun 2015 #67

Yes. I sure did. think Jun 2015 #69

Then you don't need to point out his voting record to me BainsBane Jun 2015 #94

Delusional !! orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #82

How is it delusional? BainsBane Jun 2015 #95

Ack! gollygee Jun 2015 #2

Exactly my thoughts. I don't know if he just feels staying on economics only is more effective... bettyellen Jun 2015 #8

You keep indicting him with not one iota of evidence, you posted an article orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #60

His mention of abortion was to brush it aside as "differences" bettyellen Jun 2015 #78

Different , honestly not to be insulting, your saying he said something, by not saying it ! orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #84

He brushed off the abortion issue as one that is fine to "have differences" on.... bettyellen Jun 2015 #88

"not among Dems anyway" -- Exactly! That's the context you missed. thesquanderer Jun 2015 #104

Well it's difficult hearing a liberal candidate soft pedal the issue. bettyellen Jun 2015 #106

There are more people than you think who consider themselves both pro-choice eridani Jun 2015 #112

My candidate is JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #12

I really like O Malley these days! No need to tippy toe here. ;-) bettyellen Jun 2015 #14

P.S. JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #58

Aw, good on him for that. I hope he brings gun control to the forefront! bettyellen Jun 2015 #75

Awww ismnotwasm Jun 2015 #18

There has been little scrutiny of Bernie Evergreen Emerald Jun 2015 #3

You like sticking words in his mouth? Wilms Jun 2015 #4

About nuclear war? Is quoting Sanders unfair to Sanders? bettyellen Jun 2015 #6

Quoting is one thing. Editorialized parapharasing another. Wilms Jun 2015 #21

The context is he did brush aside the issue. When he addresses it during his campaign- with loud and proud support bettyellen Jun 2015 #22

To me it looked like he was on their case to vote for him. Wilms Jun 2015 #47

True- but does this mean he's sacrificed speaking out on abortion now bettyellen Jun 2015 #48

"Speaking out"? Wilms Jun 2015 #83

It's a life and death issue for women- tied more closely to their economic success than bettyellen Jun 2015 #86

I do hear you. Wilms Jun 2015 #99

In glad to read he spoke out about maternity leave too. bettyellen Jun 2015 #100

Well, yeah. They have paternity leave in parts of Europe. Wilms Jun 2015 #101

But they wouldn't trade places either. Paternity leave would be awesome too. bettyellen Jun 2015 #102

And that touches a huge subject for me. Wilms Jun 2015 #105

The Clintons have every word and action parsed to pieces. yallerdawg Jun 2015 #7

We've looked the other way many times for Hill & Bill . orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #10

Well, we should give Senator Sanders (I-VT)... yallerdawg Jun 2015 #11

He is rated the most liberal Senator in general and NARAL has given him a rating of 100%. merrily Jun 2015 #32

Good article. DCBob Jun 2015 #9

Purely economic class-based appeals are not a problem now, but they will be. Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #13

Now, if only the Sanders supporters would actually discuss this without dragging in Clinton KitSileya Jun 2015 #15

We will get the standard response to look up his record- and it misses the point. bettyellen Jun 2015 #16

Yes. And his response to the 1972 essay was also disappointing. KitSileya Jun 2015 #23

I think you miss the point. Having a 100% rating from NARAL means he's stuck his neck out on this merrily Jun 2015 #33

So why doesn't he speak to it- why go to Wisconson and ignore it? bettyellen Jun 2015 #40

He HAS spoken to it many times. Again, I ask, could you please post the language from your OP in merrily Jun 2015 #42

I fixed the wording for you. bettyellen Jun 2015 #49

What the fuck? ismnotwasm Jun 2015 #17

At some point I have to assume shying away from women's issues is calculated. bettyellen Jun 2015 #19

Please see Reply 32. He has shown nothing but support for civil and human rights and reproductive merrily Jun 2015 #34

Your subject line is false & misleading. CrispyQ Jun 2015 #24

On abortion: "Fine, lets have our differences". Would Sanders have the gall to say that to a more bettyellen Jun 2015 #25

Is that all you have? CrispyQ Jun 2015 #27

If and when Sanders address these issues while campaigning we will have more. bettyellen Jun 2015 #28

He should say this, he should say that. Blah, blah, blah. CrispyQ Jun 2015 #36

His campaign is all words..... Yet they don't matter to you. Fine by me. bettyellen Jun 2015 #37

Whose campaign is NOT all words? The rest of his career has been deeds. merrily Jun 2015 #46

Yeah, I dunno why that poster would say they don't matter. But point taken bettyellen Jun 2015 #50

So, HE did NOT say "agee to disagree?" Those were your words, YOUR paraphrase? merrily Jun 2015 #43

Is there a meaningful difference there? I can edit but to me bettyellen Jun 2015 #45

I think there is. Also the hit piece linked in the OP doesn't give a lot of context. merrily Jun 2015 #52

He is not being treated as a misogynist or a racist- THAT is an UGLY LIE. bettyellen Jun 2015 #55

Not a lie at all, midear. He's treated on DU like a bigot on a daily basis. merrily Jun 2015 #59

Nope. Ignoring race whe stumping is discussed as problematic... bettyellen Jun 2015 #70

"NOT GOOD ENOUGH" BULLSHIT WHAT THE FUCK? NEVER MENTIONED IMMIGRATION. None of that is discussing merrily Jun 2015 #72

He's finally addressing immigration while campaigning.... bettyellen Jun 2015 #74

Totally untrue. For just one thing, Bjorn Against posted a video of him giving a 20 minute speech merrily Jun 2015 #77

The criticism is about how he chooses to campaign - get it? bettyellen Jun 2015 #80

My comment went to Gutierrez's lie about Sanders and how DU jumped on it as though it were gospel. merrily Jun 2015 #109

+100 kath Jun 2015 #56

Buried in the hit piece that is linked in the OP. merrily Jun 2015 #26

Don't you know? Depaysement Jun 2015 #29

I thought my post also covered the "what he says" issue. merrily Jun 2015 #38

Dirty tricks indeed Depaysement Jun 2015 #51

It's not buried because it's not a hit piece. Lol. bettyellen Jun 2015 #103

If you believe that, you may not know how to recognize a hit piece. merrily Jun 2015 #108

I also pointed that out to bettyellen in GD before she came and posted this OP... Violet_Crumble Jun 2015 #118

No. Not okay. BainsBane Jun 2015 #35

Apparently not entirely true, either. merrily Jun 2015 #44

What is not true is that anyone called Sanders a misogynist- I fixed my OP so you could do us the bettyellen Jun 2015 #57

Stop it. I didn't any DUer actually CALLED him a misogynist. Please stop pretending I did. merrily Jun 2015 #61

The parsing begins! Treated as a misogynist or called a misogynist- all the same. bettyellen Jun 2015 #65

I don't think Sanders is a misogynist or a racist ismnotwasm Jun 2015 #73

Exactly - they are attacking the SJWs they were always dismissive of..... bettyellen Jun 2015 #76

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #87

I'm commenting as a long time DUer and the article has him quoted as setting aside abortion as bettyellen Jun 2015 #90

Womens Rights shouldn't include Castigation of everything else . orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #91

Women's rights should not be shunted aside for political gain, period. bettyellen Jun 2015 #92

When was Hillary EVER against a Woman's Right to Choose? HockeyMom Jun 2015 #81

I did Too, she voted to believe shrub, She owes the 1% , And orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #89

O'Malley's record on policing is pretty awful, though. F4lconF16 Jun 2015 #93

Did you read his interview with NPR? BainsBane Jun 2015 #97

Or a woman who is interested mainly in making sure that half of the 1% are women. eridani Jun 2015 #113

Spare me the bumper sticker slogans BainsBane Jun 2015 #114

Given that my next door neightbor bled to death because a Catholic hospital eridani Jun 2015 #115

In that case, I would think you would not make excuses for politicians who fail to stand up for BainsBane Jun 2015 #123

I damned well do know what the upper 20% is. eridani Jun 2015 #129

Who's to know he isn't evolving.. some of his statements boston bean Jun 2015 #130

Where did Bernie Sanders say black people have to do what their betters tell them? Violet_Crumble Jun 2015 #117

She didn't say he said that, and you know it. boston bean Jun 2015 #119

No. O'Malley’s record in Baltimore: elleng Jun 2015 #98

Shit. I didn't realize this was in HOF all this time BainsBane Jun 2015 #96

I know right? ismnotwasm Jun 2015 #110

Nice little Bernie hit piece you've found there... ms liberty Jun 2015 #107

Do you speak for PoC? leftofcool Jun 2015 #126

No, I speak for myself as a woman, ms liberty Jun 2015 #131

Brushing it aside? A Little Weird Jun 2015 #111

I miss the unrec button. Scuba Jun 2015 #116

You can always use the trash group function BainsBane Jun 2015 #120

That part doesn't bother me at all, it's the false narrative that Bernie doesn't care which irks me. Scuba Jun 2015 #121

You could at least bother to read the article BainsBane Jun 2015 #124

Please see post # 111. Scuba Jun 2015 #125

directing me to a post that confirms my argument BainsBane Jun 2015 #128

Kick and highly recommended! William769 Jun 2015 #122

He's still trying to win back those "disaffected white voters", ya know? Quite frankly, I think this Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #127