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Gun Control Reform Activism

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guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 03:55 PM Aug 2016

Guns are designed specifically to kill. [View all]

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When I wrote that statement in another thread I did not expect to have some gun types attempt to explain that guns are not designed to kill.

I was told by one responder that guns are designed for lawful use. Now what exactly is the lawful use that the responder referred to?

Is it self-defense? If so, can that self-defense not include killing another?

But the argument here is not about self defense, a deflection, it is about the essential function of a gun. And a gun is designed specifically to kill. Nothing else. And a gun with a high capacity magazine makes it much easier to kill multiple people.

I read the silly nonsense that people are killed with bats. Change the last word to screwdriver, or rope, or bricks, or rocks and the same nonsensical argument can be attempted, but of all the things referred to here, only guns have as their sole purpose the facilitation of killing people and animals.

So if you are a gun rights type, a Second Amendment type, or however you define your position, know that the instrument which you insist should be legal to carry is designed to kill people. Embrace that element because no amount of rationalization can eliminate that fact.

A brutal fact that apparently makes some gun rights types uncomfortable.

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Well said and damn hard to refute. flamin lib Aug 2016 #1
True, but some gun enthusiasts insist on avoiding that simple, brutal truth. guillaumeb Aug 2016 #4
Well put judesedit Aug 2016 #24
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2019 #55
Second Amendment absolutists are billh58 Aug 2016 #2
But Bill, I can use my gun as a paper weight also!!! guillaumeb Aug 2016 #5
you left out SheriffBob Aug 2016 #13
The US Armed Forces billh58 Aug 2016 #15
Yup! ncjustice80 Aug 2016 #35
They would not be so popular among yahoos otherwise. Hoyt Aug 2016 #3
And so many gun owners apparently feel the need to own multiple guns. guillaumeb Aug 2016 #6
Exactly. They are all hunters putting food on the table like george zimmerman. Hoyt Aug 2016 #7
DailyKos: The purpose of a gun billh58 Aug 2016 #8
But this basic purpose apparently make some gun enthusiasts uncomfortable. guillaumeb Aug 2016 #9
I believe that denial runs deep billh58 Aug 2016 #10
Your first paragraph expressed it very well. guillaumeb Aug 2016 #11
A great philosopher once said: SCantiGOP Aug 2016 #12
I would not say stupid, just people with a very different world view. guillaumeb Aug 2016 #14
I know SCantiGOP Aug 2016 #28
I have one small quibble. Stonepounder Aug 2016 #16
Target shooting billh58 Aug 2016 #18
Exactly! mwrguy Aug 2016 #29
True. But my purpose in writing this thread was not to attack any guillaumeb Aug 2016 #19
Note that I agreed with your basic premise that 'guns are designed to kill'. Stonepounder Aug 2016 #22
kids and guns gunsmoker Dec 2018 #49
Then you and I must agree to disagree. Stonepounder Dec 2018 #50
I personally think the framing should always be "regulating firearms." fleabiscuit Aug 2016 #17
The follow up question is...... guillaumeb Aug 2016 #20
Congress has virtually unlimited power to do what ever they want. nt fleabiscuit Aug 2016 #32
Designed to propel a projectile evilhime Aug 2016 #21
Bub bye... n/t billh58 Aug 2016 #25
While I agree with much of your argument, that guns are used for hunting and sport, guillaumeb Aug 2016 #31
Change the firearm. I always get tons of phishing email and account assaults after posting this... fleabiscuit Aug 2016 #33
Great ideas! billh58 Aug 2016 #34
Screw the 2A. ncjustice80 Aug 2016 #36
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Maybe Apples system 7 will be used. nt fleabiscuit Feb 2018 #46
Maybe.... MartinLane Sep 2019 #62
Yep. Iggo Aug 2016 #23
Wanna know what's really weird? Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2016 #26
Denial of the essential nature of a weapon that they insist on carrying. guillaumeb Aug 2016 #30
When I was a boy, we would fill coffee containers with gasoline and shoot them bluedye33139 Aug 2016 #27
I would ask the "bat, shoestring, and pickle" gun-apologists to show where any of those items Aristus Aug 2016 #37
Yes, The difference between what something is designed to do versus guillaumeb Aug 2016 #38
Suppose a family of guns were designed NOT to kill. Jerry442 Aug 2016 #39
No, because no matter the stated reason for buying a gun, guillaumeb Aug 2016 #40
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Pools, Cars, Knives..... SoCalMusicLover Jul 2017 #42
You forgot the prefix "il" when you wrote logic. guillaumeb Jul 2017 #43
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Homicide or Combat Games gunsmoker Dec 2018 #47
Welcome to DU, and this "ancient" post. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #48
A recently deceased friend of ours... 3catwoman3 Jan 2019 #51
Sad that people live in such fear. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #53
Well said!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #52
Thank you. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #54
Does this make sense? LeadByExample Aug 2019 #56
Welcome to DU pandr32 Aug 2019 #57
Welcome to DU, and this conversation. guillaumeb Aug 2019 #58
welcome to DU gopiscrap Aug 2019 #59
That's right! KalebD108 Aug 2019 #60
Welcome to DU. guillaumeb Aug 2019 #61
Is the group inactive? AlCarroll Oct 2020 #63
Welcome to DU. guillaumeb Oct 2020 #64
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