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Gun Control Reform Activism

AndyS

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13. I presented the stats, a gun in the home makes the household 5x

Reply to FBaggins (Reply #12)

Wed Feb 9, 2022, 12:06 PM

Feb 2022

more likely to be hurt by gun.

I know the gun industry has told you for 50 years that guns make you safer. I under stand that a lie told a thousand time sounds like the truth. But it isn't. It's still a lie.

If I were a smart ass I'd ask you to show me stats on how many home invasions give the homeowner more notice. There aren't any so save your time.

However, about 2% of gunshot incidents are defensive which matches the 2% that are children under 11 and is 30% less than the 3% that are 'accidental shootings'. 40% of homicides are committed by someone with a felony conviction so I guess 60% were committed by law abiding citizens that could pass a background check? You pose an objection based on niggling minutia, I have the compiled numbers.

I have science to rely on. You have propaganda put out by gun makers and sellers without a conscience.

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The whole Amir Locke death should put to rest the idea that having a gun [View all] AndyS Feb 2022 OP

One of my husband's friends from his Air Force years... 3catwoman3 Feb 2022 #1

Actually it tells me thjere is something wrong with no knock warrants JohnSJ Feb 2022 #2

You missed the point. Forget the no knock warrant because an armed intruder AndyS Feb 2022 #3

Imo..there's a whole lot wrong with no knock warrants Deuxcents Feb 2022 #4

Yes there is JohnSJ Feb 2022 #5

Too many of these shootings have a gun involved. Doesn't excuse what happened, but the police Hoyt Feb 2022 #6

At the risk of being TOO cynical, TomSlick Feb 2022 #7

It's a painful agreement to your point Deuxcents Feb 2022 #8

I agree. I did have a friend who lost her white son to police who shot him Hoyt Feb 2022 #9

Sir, more whites are killed annually DashOneBravo Feb 2022 #22

Obviously correct - but - AA folks make up just over 12% of the population. TomSlick Feb 2022 #27

That's true about the percentage. DashOneBravo Feb 2022 #28

Not a derail. A sincere discussion. TomSlick Feb 2022 #29

Your theory doesn't make any sense FBaggins Feb 2022 #10

Only one cop fired his weapon. Only one. Exactly who the fuck cares if it's AndyS Feb 2022 #11

Still not at all comparable to the more common self-defense situations FBaggins Feb 2022 #12

I presented the stats, a gun in the home makes the household 5x AndyS Feb 2022 #13

No you didn't... but that's also irrelevant FBaggins Feb 2022 #14

Okay. I presented stats on defensive uses vs children and accidents. AndyS Feb 2022 #15

Ok. Guns are sixteen times more likely to defend left-handed homeowners than harm them FBaggins Feb 2022 #16

I see your 2% of incidents in defense and raise you the 98% that resulted in homicide, AndyS Feb 2022 #17

Sure... as long as you admit that you're just making numbers up as you go along FBaggins Feb 2022 #18

My numbers are not made up. Please do not call me a liar again you have all the lies you need from AndyS Feb 2022 #19

Of course they are FBaggins Feb 2022 #20

I have not dodged any "simple" fact. The premise is that a gun in the household AndyS Feb 2022 #21

Nope FBaggins Feb 2022 #23

*sigh* I am taken to task for not posting sources. AndyS Feb 2022 #25

First question for your link FBaggins Feb 2022 #24

Yes unless you can show me a more verifiable accurate number. nt AndyS Feb 2022 #26