Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
Editorials & Other Articles
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
Gun Control Reform Activism
In reply to the discussion: A loosening of NY SAFE Act I Oppose. [View all]gejohnston
(17,502 posts)10. last time
Do you support the provision of Manchin Toomey that would have allowed interstate handgun purchases that was completely banned without FFL under the 1968 Gun Control Act? If you are going to propose "universal background checks" I think it is best to do it right the first time. MT would have only affected gun show sales by non FFL holders in states that doesn't have UBC and intra state online sales, since interstate gun sales already have BGC unless they are violating the 1968 Gun Control Act.
Yes that honest and straightforward. MT was nothing either side made out to be. If you read the bill, you will see it. Like I said, Michigan is a better template. The fact remains, the bill would have loosened a provision, a kind of obscure one granted, provision of the 1968 Gun Control Act. I find it interesting that you find the fact that I am better informed on the bill that you are as "dishonest and not straightforward".
Thank you johnston, you afterwards provided info which proves half of what you claimed above, that retired cops can, after they retire, purchase hi capacity ammo clips, not just keep what they had purchased while on active duty. That's what I wanted, proof, since your first link suggested otherwise.
But you still haven't' proven the other half of your claim, that retired cops can purchase 'guns other new yorkers cannot', also suggesting those guns could include assault rifles.
Eagerly awaiting the final phase of your proving you are telling the whole truth.
But you still haven't' proven the other half of your claim, that retired cops can purchase 'guns other new yorkers cannot', also suggesting those guns could include assault rifles.
Eagerly awaiting the final phase of your proving you are telling the whole truth.
They can keep and maintain the unmodified pistol magazines and load them to full capacity, while nonLE can only have modified magazines, assuming the pistol is designed for more than ten. Even then, the private person is allowed to only load seven unless at the range. They would be able possess them, so if their BIL in Florida mailed replacements for them, he would still be able to use and buy them. They should be limited to seven like everyone else.
Assault rifles are machine guns under the National Firearms Act and have been banned in NY since FDR was governor. This one uses the term "high power weapon"
http://rochesterhomepage.net/fulltext?nxd_id=391292
It says they may own. That proves my point. He should follow the exact same rules as everyone else.
The fact that you spend most of the space asking me on things not related to the OP and accusing me of dishonesty instead of commenting on the OP itself is interesting.
I honestly thought it would be of interest to your group and lead to an open and honest conversation about the OP. Apparently, I was in error.
It is relevant since cops and former cops are no more law abiding than the rest of us and they deserve not carve out in laws. The same applies to politicians. I have proven my point. I won't waste any more of my time with with absurd interrogation.
Edit history
Please sign in to view edit histories.
29 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations
In my ideal world, NO private citizen EXCEPT city/state/fed law enforcer ONLY while on duty
graham4anything
May 2013
#1