Philosophy

ZombieHorde

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11. Anything that exists only within the imagination is strictly imaginary.

Wed Oct 8, 2014, 02:11 PM

Oct 2014

For example, the world of Harry Potter does not exist outside of our minds, our imaginations, so the world of Harry Potter is strictly imaginary.

Organizations such as countries and churches are social/rhetorical constructs. They are not a property of matter. Social constructs don't exist outside of the imagination. Therefore, the social constructs we use are strictly imaginary.

However, if that's the case, then there is no America, American president, Democratic party, and most other things discussed on this forum. So, you're posting on it is both odd and hypocritical.

I'm also an atheist who moderates the Religion Group.

I believe behavior is real. I believe behavior is strongly influenced by beliefs. In my view, all politics, religion, etc. is propaganda. I happen to enjoy a lot of the propaganda I see on this website. So even though my belief system may be different than many of people who use this website, I don't believe I am a hypocrite for using it, since I share many of the values the creators and other users hold.

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Is it possible to exist outside ideology? [View all] Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 OP

I think ZombieHorde Jun 2014 #1

Chán Buddhism as developed by the Chinese is a practice delrem Jul 2014 #2

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There is no living outside Ideology. Pike Bishop Oct 2014 #4

how do you know that? noiretextatique Oct 2014 #5

Personal experience and scientific logic...a potent combination. Pike Bishop Oct 2014 #6

How do you define the word "ideology." ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #7

Definition. Pike Bishop Oct 2014 #8

That definition is based on imaginary things. ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #9

...and yet youre on the "Democratic" Underground site....;) Pike Bishop Oct 2014 #10

Anything that exists only within the imagination is strictly imaginary. ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #11

Government actions are much more real than Snape's Pike Bishop Oct 2014 #12

You seem to be conflating three different things. ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #15

I didn't conflate anything. Pike Bishop Oct 2014 #16

I agree human behavior relates to objects, ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #17

Yes, the Nazis were real. Pike Bishop Oct 2014 #18

Why aren't you answering my questions? ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #19

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #20

Do you equate "objectively real" with "physically real"? delrem Nov 2014 #22

Lots of things going on in this post. ZombieHorde Nov 2014 #24

This is difficult to take seriously. delrem Nov 2014 #25

Apprehension is one aspect of the imagination. ZombieHorde Nov 2014 #26

No. delrem Nov 2014 #27

I did not say they were the same. ZombieHorde Nov 2014 #28

symbols are concrete. nt delrem Nov 2014 #29

Where do laws exist? nt ZombieHorde Nov 2014 #30

You mean like the laws of motion, of gravity, or like the laws of England? delrem Nov 2014 #31

I am talking about the laws of governments. ZombieHorde Nov 2014 #32

Thank you. delrem Nov 2014 #33

Althusser's is in fact a reduction, not more complex. FigTree Jul 2017 #36

everyone's personal experience is different noiretextatique Oct 2014 #13

Yes it is. Pike Bishop Oct 2014 #14

Why do you think a ch'an Buddhist should submit to your criterion of "scientific proof"? nt delrem Nov 2014 #23

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I thought Pike Bishop was trolling me, ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #21

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Live or Exist davidclay123 Aug 2017 #37

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I Don't think so imsarvan May 2018 #39

Mind vs brain lounge_jam Oct 2018 #40