Philosophy
In reply to the discussion: Is it possible to exist outside ideology? [View all]Pike Bishop
(32 posts)I didn't conflate anything. Objects, laws, and human behavior are already conflated. They always coexist. Unless you can show me a law or human behavior that is completely unrelated to objects, and you can't.
You also have an inaccurate view of phenomenological relations. An idea of an external object cannot exist without that object existing as well. Once a perceptual relation exists between the two, the subject's concept of the object is always tied to that object to some degree. That's reality. And we were never discussing meanings. We were discussing governments and churches and whether they were real or material or not. My last post showed they clearly are.
Irony is also apparently lost on you, as you missed the irony of my final paragraph. The Nazi governments that killed the Jews was materially real. The American government that wiped out Indian nations was materially real. The material means they used were horribly real. For you to compare their existence to the imaginary existence of the Harry Potter world would have been a false and horrible insult to those victims. My saying it would have been "comforting" to them was a sardonic criticism of your erroneous views, not an observation on how comforting they are.