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freshwest

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10. I've known people in the PNW who attend evangelical churches, large ones, and have gone on tours to
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 06:16 PM
Apr 2013

Israel with RW politicans, Haggee and other groups. It costs a lot of money. These are middle class people, some of them are into IT. They also go on cruise ships to do... whatever it is they do.

I was good friends with a woman who went down the rabbithole with this stuff, plenty of money in the family and it's not just at the church where these folks gather weekly. They don't want their kids exposed to anything from the government, they homeschool now.

This is what I tell people who claim PBO is supposed to fix everything, yet don't get involved with what is going on in their neighborhoods and local elections that create what is going on in Washington, D.C. right now and giving us all fits.

This did not evolve overnight. They meet more than once a week, are part of community and private firms transforming us into something I can only recoil at. A wife of a MicroSoft employee I know just went on one of these Israeli tours with her church.

They are into the Rapture concept and quite intolerant of other people and now raising her family that way. She is in her twenties and for charter schools although she got her degree from state universities and worked at public schools, she only saw them as a stepping stone. Her husband and son are really into this stuff, they regard non-believers as the enemy.

The PNW is getting divided between these folks who are getting into office with Tea Party groups. Even though McCain finally rejected Haggee's help, Palin and others use believers in this stuff to stay in office. What is the solution to this movement, to bring them back to secularism, or will they continue to sabotage us?

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Isn't this the same batch that did a show at Palin's home church in Alaska? Anyone know? freshwest Apr 2013 #1
I don't know about the connection with Palin, but Liberty U. is a hotbed of rightist cbayer Apr 2013 #2
I edited. Money to build churches is nothing. There's a bigger game afoot there. freshwest Apr 2013 #3
Found it. This is well-funded and international: freshwest Apr 2013 #6
Good research. Hagee's a nightmare, but I didn't know he had any connections cbayer Apr 2013 #7
I've known people in the PNW who attend evangelical churches, large ones, and have gone on tours to freshwest Apr 2013 #10
Smacks of scientology, doesn't it? cbayer Apr 2013 #15
Barber re tweeted Ssempa’s note - pinto Apr 2013 #4
Both cut of the same hate mongering cloth. cbayer Apr 2013 #5
Here in the US, expose them as best we can I guess. No clue about what we can do in Africa. pinto Apr 2013 #8
Agree about exposing them every opportunity we have. cbayer Apr 2013 #9
The U2 guy? freshwest Apr 2013 #11
Well, he might be a good person to speak up on this. cbayer Apr 2013 #13
He's been a vocal and financial advocate for issues that impact Africa. Sunshine and money... pinto Apr 2013 #12
Got it! He's got both the media exposure and the money. cbayer Apr 2013 #14
These people are evil!!! hrmjustin Apr 2013 #16
They really are despicable, Justin. cbayer Apr 2013 #17
Bishop Christopher is. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #18
Look at the innocent faces in Africa being fed this. I fear for the next generation, here and there. freshwest Apr 2013 #19
The sad thing is many of these people are anglicans/episcopalain. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #20
I still think the American churches (not Anglican) are doing more damage than the locals, JMHO. freshwest Apr 2013 #21
Rick Warren comes to mind. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #22
Was he in on this too? IDK that. freshwest Apr 2013 #23
He is denying it but he is an associate of several of the ring leader pastors on this. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #24
Oh snap! Fearless Apr 2013 #25
Somewhere cranking out copies of okasha Apr 2013 #26
Liberty University, apparently. Should we pay them a visit? cbayer Apr 2013 #27
I may have to risk it! Fearless Apr 2013 #28
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