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Manifestor_of_Light

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16. Yep, original sin and substitionary atonement.

Reply to hrmjustin (Reply #15)

Thu Aug 15, 2013, 11:10 PM

Aug 2013

Adam and Eve sinned and all that.

Ridiculous. Most people have enough things to worry about that they might have done wrong, assuming they have a conscience, without a minister authority figure hitting them with a criminal rap they don't deserve. It was added by St. Augustine of Hippo to Christian doctrine.

You do know that lots of ancient gods died for our sins and were resurrected? Osiris, Mithra, Apollo?

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What is the definition of a Christian? [View all] Manifestor_of_Light Aug 2013 OP

I thought "Christians" were people who followed Jesus, AKA the Prophet Isa. MADem Aug 2013 #1

I was making Manifestor_of_Light Aug 2013 #2

Well, the bottom line is, if I say I'm a ballet dancer, I'm a ballet dancer. MADem Aug 2013 #20

I am gad that you have posted your question here and suspect you will get cbayer Aug 2013 #3

A Christian is a believer who believes Jesus Christ is the Jewish Messiah and is the son of God come hrmjustin Aug 2013 #4

The Apostles' Creed okasha Aug 2013 #5

+1 rug Aug 2013 #9

I read the thread you cited in the thread header Fortinbras Armstrong Aug 2013 #6

Which Christ? Manifestor_of_Light Aug 2013 #7

If you knew how the Bible was edited, okasha Aug 2013 #8

You seriously misunderstand Christian teaching. rug Aug 2013 #10

I've always wanted to poke holes in the arguments against the Bible, kentauros Aug 2013 #11

The insistence on giving equal weight to every word okasha Aug 2013 #12

We celebrate the Jesus of the bible and our traditions. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #13

Or the one who rode dinosaurs, while you're at it? MADem Aug 2013 #21

Why do you need to be "saved" in the first place? Manifestor_of_Light Aug 2013 #14

Well it came from the idea that since we know right from wrong we chose to rebel against God hrmjustin Aug 2013 #15

Yep, original sin and substitionary atonement. Manifestor_of_Light Aug 2013 #16

I don't believe in Adam and Eve but yes it is the idea that people from the time we first were on hrmjustin Aug 2013 #17

Actually, gods that are "very similar to the story of Jesus" okasha Aug 2013 #28

Actually, okasha Aug 2013 #18

This is probably not the best place to call a belief "ridiculous"... TreasonousBastard Aug 2013 #19

I agree--nothing wrong with hashing out differences of opinion, but it's best if MADem Aug 2013 #22

You're not "the decider," though, MoL. MADem Aug 2013 #23

I'm not saying these are bad people. Manifestor_of_Light Aug 2013 #24

I am simply asking you to choose your words carefully. MADem Aug 2013 #25

I am choosing my words carefully. Manifestor_of_Light Aug 2013 #26

The Mormons. But see, there you go again! MADem Aug 2013 #27

I've been a UU for decades. Manifestor_of_Light Aug 2013 #29

Your comments support my point. MADem Aug 2013 #30

You have to admire the sheer chutzpah Fortinbras Armstrong Aug 2013 #31

No, you don't. okasha Aug 2013 #32

This message was self-deleted by its author Tumbulu Aug 2013 #33