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TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
16. Not quite as bad as it sounds...
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 10:27 PM
Mar 2013

it's a tax on church members, not the general population.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_tax

Aside from that, though, are historic subsidies for "official" churches, like the Church of England, that aren't a special tax, but do come from general tax revenues.

Kinda goes along with their idea of including the tip in the restaurant bill, VAT... and other ways to "hide" stuff you might not want to pay if given a choice.

The reusing burial plots thing comes from the Dark Ages when good farmland was expensive and the churches owned some of the best. Graveyards were kept small and when you were suitably decomposed, your bones were dug up and sent to the "boneyard" for eternal storage. Things like disease and constant warring kept the corpse supply growing far faster than the burial plot supply.

BTW, when I lived in Germany in the late 60's there were "downtown" cemeteries that had been there for ages. They became very pleasant parks where we would to hang out for lunch.

Personally, I don't think it's much about religion at all... TreasonousBastard Mar 2013 #1
Agree. I think many of these people are leaving their religious organizations cbayer Mar 2013 #2
I'm not sure when, why, or how... TreasonousBastard Mar 2013 #19
Churches can be relevant, and we found one that is. Lots of kids. kwassa Mar 2013 #13
Yeah, I think kids are the key and... TreasonousBastard Mar 2013 #17
I think many people just don't feel they need an intermediary anymore. MADem Mar 2013 #3
As George Carlin once said, lovemydog Mar 2013 #4
I had no idea that this happened in Germany. cbayer Mar 2013 #5
They aren't the only country that does this sort of thing, either. MADem Mar 2013 #6
I can get behind the idea of reusing graves, but not the mandatory tithing. cbayer Mar 2013 #7
I do think the future is in "Interfaith" conversations and interactions. MADem Mar 2013 #21
There is power in numbers and in diversity, imo. cbayer Mar 2013 #23
Not quite as bad as it sounds... TreasonousBastard Mar 2013 #16
Yes, exactly--you tell the government what faith you prefer, and they take out the money for you MADem Mar 2013 #20
I suppose not many of us need an intermediate--but my guess is that all of us need a community nt Thats my opinion Mar 2013 #15
Agreed. MADem Mar 2013 #22
Much of early protestantism was based on a rejection of... TreasonousBastard Mar 2013 #18
I guess the whole "We're Number One!!!!!!!" (minus the giant foam finger, of course) MADem Mar 2013 #24
"not an indication of declining religious belief." SpartanDem Mar 2013 #8
The term none is in response to the question about which religious organizations cbayer Mar 2013 #9
I think it is just based on demographicS alone SpartanDem Mar 2013 #10
I think you are correct that declining belief is rising, but the rise in the cbayer Mar 2013 #11
Well, another poll says that atheists represent about 5% of the population, up from 1% kwassa Mar 2013 #12
And that an international survey. cbayer Mar 2013 #14
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