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hrmjustin

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Fri Oct 17, 2014, 01:14 PM Oct 2014

Why I'd Still Believe In God Even if the Bible Was a Fairytale [View all]

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Mick Mooney

I've watched a lot of well known atheists on YouTube. To be honest, they have some really interesting ― and truthful ― things to say. The main objection I find with their perspective is not their critique on religion, which I find mostly quite accurate, but rather it is how they mix God with religion. They look at the irrationality of religion, and therefore claim that belief in God is irrational.

I thought about this point quite a lot, and pondered if they were right. Is it irrational to believe in God?

While I agree that believing in an ancient religious narrative is irrational (by irrational, I mean it takes faith to believe a certain narrative about God based on ancient accounts told in stories, myths, and allegories. Granted, it may turn out to be true, but nonetheless the point remains that it is not a rational conclusion one would come to purely by reason.) I disagree that belief in God is irrational (as in the Higher Power who created the universe and everything within it). If anything, it is the complete opposite. Belief in an unknown Higher Power (being agnostic) seems to me to be the only truly rational option one can choose when contemplating the universe in which we abide, but for the religious believer and the atheist, they hold to either a faith-based belief or a faith-based non-belief; both positions that are fundamentally irrational and requires faith, not rationality, to hold to their position.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mick-mooney/why-id-still-believe-in-g_b_5988582.html?utm_hp_ref=religion

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Who created God? GeorgeGist Oct 2014 #1
We do not know. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #2
Who said God needed to be created? rug Oct 2014 #5
That is a good point. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #6
These comments all boil down to trying to empty a glass of air with a spoon. rug Oct 2014 #7
lol i suppose so. i thought the article was interesting. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #8
Yes it is. rug Oct 2014 #9
It is a question for the ages. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #10
In the meantime, they're using a measuring rod to measure what can't be measured. rug Oct 2014 #11
Well some people are just as certain there is no God as those who say there is. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #12
I think one could take a reasonable stab via probability. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #33
Or the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2014 #28
! rug Oct 2014 #30
I understand the jibe but... AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #34
Funny you mention that. rug Oct 2014 #35
The claim makes logical sense to me. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #36
There a lot of them. rug Oct 2014 #38
Atheism/agnosticism dangin Oct 2014 #3
It is all a hope that there is something more after this life. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #4
Faith dangin Oct 2014 #13
As host of this room I ask you to self-delete your comment and reread the sop of this room. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #14
Remaining civil dangin Oct 2014 #15
Here is the sop. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #16
self delete beam me up scottie Oct 2014 #17
I'm never here dangin Oct 2014 #18
I am not saying you have to leave. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #19
self delete beam me up scottie Oct 2014 #20
I apologize dangin Oct 2014 #21
No worries and no great offense. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #22
self delete beam me up scottie Oct 2014 #23
Saying that the DSM calls faith a delusion Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2014 #29
Thanks, that's the better way to handle this. rug Oct 2014 #24
self delete beam me up scottie Oct 2014 #25
Strongly disagree with the premise of this article. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #26
The bit you quote Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2014 #31
That would be a positive claim. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #32
You are making a claim, "God does not exist" Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2014 #37
You completely misunderstood everything I just said, and reversed the meaning. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #39
Here. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #40
So you admit that YOU do make the positive claim Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2014 #41
Some do. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #42
Also from the article edgineered Oct 2014 #27
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