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Fortinbras Armstrong

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31. The bit you quote

Sun Oct 19, 2014, 03:58 PM

Oct 2014

"Belief in an unknown Higher Power (being agnostic) seems to me to be the only truly rational option one can choose when contemplating the universe in which we abide, but for the religious believer and the atheist, they hold to either a faith-based belief or a faith-based non-belief; both positions that are fundamentally irrational and requires faith, not rationality, to hold to their position.

Is something I have been saying for years. To say, "God does not exist" is EVERY BIT AS MUCH AN ACT OF FAITH as saying "God does exist". But the atheists refuse to admit this clear and obvious fact, I suppose because they don't want to admit that faith has anything to do with their beliefs.

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Why I'd Still Believe In God Even if the Bible Was a Fairytale [View all] hrmjustin Oct 2014 OP

Who created God? GeorgeGist Oct 2014 #1

We do not know. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #2

Who said God needed to be created? rug Oct 2014 #5

That is a good point. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #6

These comments all boil down to trying to empty a glass of air with a spoon. rug Oct 2014 #7

lol i suppose so. i thought the article was interesting. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #8

Yes it is. rug Oct 2014 #9

It is a question for the ages. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #10

In the meantime, they're using a measuring rod to measure what can't be measured. rug Oct 2014 #11

Well some people are just as certain there is no God as those who say there is. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #12

I think one could take a reasonable stab via probability. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #33

Or the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2014 #28

! rug Oct 2014 #30

I understand the jibe but... AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #34

Funny you mention that. rug Oct 2014 #35

The claim makes logical sense to me. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #36

There a lot of them. rug Oct 2014 #38

Atheism/agnosticism dangin Oct 2014 #3

It is all a hope that there is something more after this life. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #4

Faith dangin Oct 2014 #13

As host of this room I ask you to self-delete your comment and reread the sop of this room. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #14

Remaining civil dangin Oct 2014 #15

Here is the sop. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #16

self delete beam me up scottie Oct 2014 #17

I'm never here dangin Oct 2014 #18

I am not saying you have to leave. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #19

self delete beam me up scottie Oct 2014 #20

I apologize dangin Oct 2014 #21

No worries and no great offense. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #22

self delete beam me up scottie Oct 2014 #23

Saying that the DSM calls faith a delusion Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2014 #29

Thanks, that's the better way to handle this. rug Oct 2014 #24

self delete beam me up scottie Oct 2014 #25

Strongly disagree with the premise of this article. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #26

The bit you quote Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2014 #31

That would be a positive claim. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #32

You are making a claim, "God does not exist" Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2014 #37

You completely misunderstood everything I just said, and reversed the meaning. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #39

Here. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #40

So you admit that YOU do make the positive claim Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2014 #41

Some do. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #42

Also from the article edgineered Oct 2014 #27