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LostOne4Ever

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27. Okay

Wed Dec 10, 2014, 09:52 PM

Dec 2014

[font style="font-family:papyrus,'Brush Script MT','Infindel B',fantasy;" size=3 color=teal]Said poster also thought my font was a way to bully him. Something I have been using since BEFORE Halloween. You know that. You have seen my posts in the LGBT and Texas group. You even responded to me when I was using this font.

Said poster, completely misinterpreted my post and you know it. You say I disrupted the thread. Show me.

PLEASE QUOTE WHAT I SAID THAT WAS DISRUPTIVE.

You can't, because you know I didn't say anything disruptive. Or combative (at least till the attacks started), or redefining, or whatever else.

[center][font size=5]I didn't even technically disagree with him.[/font][/center]

Here for the people reading along at home the thread in question:[/font]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12645590

[font style="font-family:papyrus,'Brush Script MT','Infindel B',fantasy;" size=3 color=teal]Since he/she self deleted here is what the OP wrote:[/font]
http://imgur.com/RubpC3V

[font style="font-family:papyrus,'Brush Script MT','Infindel B',fantasy;" size=3 color=teal]There, all the cards are on the table. Every last one. No where to hide. Just the truth.

Speaking of which, for a person who calls yourself a militant you didn't exactly object when the OP of that thread said militants can not see nuance and have a reptilian mind. In fact, rather than chastise him like you are me, you recced the thread. A thread that was a direct violation of the SoP of this group:[/font]

[div class="excerpt" style="margin-left:1em; border:1px solid #bfbfbf; border-radius:0.4615em; box-shadow:3px 3px 3px #999999;"]A safe haven that provides opportunities for people of all faiths, spiritual leanings and non-belief to discuss religious topics and events in a positive and civil manner, with an emphasis on tolerance. Criticisms of individual beliefs or non-belief, or debates about the existence of higher power(s) are not appropriate in this group.

It also says something about conversations in a positive and civil manner. Can you honestly say that your posts about me have been civil? Calling me a ninny who just discovered color? Where in any of these three thread have I attacked you?

[font style="font-family:papyrus,'Brush Script MT','Infindel B',fantasy;" size=3 color=teal]It is an oxymoron:[/font]

http://www.oxymoronlist.com/oxymora-m/
http://grammar.about.com/od/rhetoricstyle/a/100-Awfully-Good-Examples-Of-Oxymorons.htm

[font style="font-family:papyrus,'Brush Script MT','Infindel B',fantasy;" size=3 color=teal]No dictionaries this time:[/font]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxymoron
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militant
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soldier
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militant_(word)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-war_movement
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacifism

[div class="excerpt" style="margin-left:1em; border:1px solid #bfbfbf; border-radius:0.4615em; box-shadow:3px 3px 3px #999999;"]An anti-war movement (also antiwar) is a social movement, usually in opposition to a particular nation's decision to start or carry on an armed conflict, unconditional of a maybe-existing just cause. The term can also refer to pacifism, which is the opposition to all use of military force during conflicts. Many activists distinguish between anti-war movements and peace movements. Anti-war activists work through protest and other grassroots means to attempt to pressure a government (or governments) to put an end to a particular war or conflict.

[div class="excerpt" style="margin-left:1em; border:1px solid #bfbfbf; border-radius:0.4615em; box-shadow:3px 3px 3px #999999;"]Pacifism is opposition to war and violence. The word pacifism was coined by the French peace campaigner Émile Arnaud (1864–1921) and adopted by other peace activists at the tenth Universal Peace Congress in Glasgow in 1901.[1] A related term is ahimsa (to do no harm), which is a core philosophy in Buddhism, Jainism, and Hinduism. While modern connotations are recent, having been explicated since the 19th century, ancient references abound.

[div class="excerpt" style="margin-left:1em; border:1px solid #bfbfbf; border-radius:0.4615em; box-shadow:3px 3px 3px #999999;"]The English word militant is both an adjective and a noun, and is usually used to mean vigorously active, combative and aggressive, especially in support of a cause, as in 'militant reformers'.[1][2] It comes from the 15th century Latin "militare" meaning "to serve as a soldier". The related modern concept of the militia as a defensive organization against invaders grew out of the Anglo-Saxon fyrd. In times of crisis, the militiaman left his civilian duties and became a soldier until the emergency was over, when he returned to his civilian occupation and life.

However, the current meaning of militant does not usually refer to a registered soldier: it can be anyone who subscribes to the idea of using vigorous, sometimes extreme, activity to achieve an objective, usually political. For example, a "militant [political] activist" would be expected to be more confrontational and aggressive than an activist not described as militant.

Militance may or may not include physical violence, armed combat, terrorism, and the like. For example, the political Militant tendency (later Militant Labour) published a newspaper, intervened in labour disputes, moved resolutions in political meetings, but was not based on violence, although some confrontations might lead to unarmed fighting. The purpose of the Christian Church Militant is to struggle against sin, the devil and "..the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places" (Ephesians 6:12), but it is not a violent movement.

[font style="font-family:papyrus,'Brush Script MT','Infindel B',fantasy;" size=3 color=teal]Militant pacifist, militantly anti-war are "apparently contradictory" terms that are put together in a figure of speech. It is put together to mean someone who is so devoted to non-violence that it almost burden on violence itself. That is the irony of it. It actually still works with your example while meaning exactly what I said it does. Similar to phrases such as faithfully unfaithful or Hot Ice.[/font]

[font style="font-family:papyrus,'Brush Script MT','Infindel B',fantasy;" size=3 color=teal]When used with atheist by people hostile to outspoken atheists...

[center][font size=5]It.is.a.slur.[/font][/center]

Militancy is meant to refer to someone so extremely devoted to a cause it is like they are in the military. Hence, why it is based on[/font] [font size=3 color=teal]mīlitāns[/font] [font style="font-family:papyrus,'Brush Script MT','Infindel B',fantasy;" size=3 color=teal]latin for one serving as a solider. The word, when in context of religion, it refers to violence and terrorism. Look at the OP from the thread. He gave links to military Christianity, Islam, Judaism, and Bhuddism. What comes up on them? Terrorism for three and a slur used by anti-semites for militant Judaism.

I would also like to comment that pointing to an atheist who advocated for war (though not necessarily because of his atheism) is not a good way to show that militancy does NOT refer to violence when used with the word atheist?

How about the FFRF? Do you consider them militants? Have you seen this page?[/font]

http://www.ffafintl.org/

[font style="font-family:papyrus,'Brush Script MT','Infindel B',fantasy;" size=3 color=teal]What are they doing on the main page? Mocking the FFRF and talking about militant atheist violence and trying to link it to what they (and others) call new atheists? Comparing atheist activist to militant atheism is indeed a slur.

A very nasty one at that.[/font]

[font style="font-family:papyrus,'Brush Script MT','Infindel B',fantasy;" size=3 color=teal]Then Quote what I said that was disruptive.[/font]

[font style="font-family:papyrus,'Brush Script MT','Infindel B',fantasy;" size=3 color=teal]Then it is like I said, it is not a primary color. The primary colors are red, blue, and green. The secondary colors are magenta, cyan, and yellow. When you combine a primary color with its compliment (for example red and cyan) you get white. [/font]

http://learn.leighcotnoir.com/artspeak/elements-color/primary-colors/

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"Militant" [View all] okasha Dec 2014 OP

Brava! rug Dec 2014 #1

That, too. okasha Dec 2014 #3

I had to look that up. rug Dec 2014 #5

Really? LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #12

You can not have it both ways. TM99 Dec 2014 #15

What was inappropriate about my manner? Honestly I don't see it LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #17

Really? cbayer Dec 2014 #18

Good post. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #2

Great! okasha Dec 2014 #6

No i am a marshmallow. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #8

"Moving water wears away stone." Lao Tse okasha Dec 2014 #9

And if you told someone that you consider a word a slur against you LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #14

And that is how you use the adjective "militant" kentauros Dec 2014 #4

Please go ahead and post it. okasha Dec 2014 #7

Well, I may have to rewrite it a bit, kentauros Dec 2014 #10

I am Asexual LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #13

"Religionista" is a made-up word, kentauros Dec 2014 #20

The rest of the world is mostly theist LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #21

Okay, now you've confused me. kentauros Dec 2014 #22

I am giving you an example of a word LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #23

We're not going to agree, kentauros Dec 2014 #24

Very well LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #25

Yes... LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #11

Let's start at the beginning okasha Dec 2014 #26

Okay LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #27

You know, I think you are probably a nice person IRL. cbayer Dec 2014 #28

Cbayer (long post) LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #32

I appreciate your post and have read it carefully. cbayer Dec 2014 #36

Alright LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #38

I think you can PM the hosts with your suggestions. cbayer Dec 2014 #39

Here's some militant Christians. stone space Dec 2014 #29

Militantly praying. okasha Dec 2014 #30

They aren't the only militants in the Berrigan family. Check out Frida's profile: stone space Dec 2014 #34

... LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #33

What if atheists were defined by their actions? stone space Dec 2014 #40

These are the people I was raised by and with. cbayer Dec 2014 #37

That's understandable - being neighborly means avoiding using terms that offend others el_bryanto Dec 2014 #41

Militant atheist here. stone space Dec 2014 #16

Haven't you been instructed? okasha Dec 2014 #31

I should have listened to the National Review. stone space Dec 2014 #35

You can be whatever you choose to be and you do it well. cbayer Dec 2014 #19