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el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
6. I honestly don't think there is anyway to make this argument fly
Tue May 5, 2015, 08:55 AM
May 2015

I understand what you are saying. Belief is close to identity as is ethnicity or race or sexual preference or gender. In general we wouldn't attack someone for being a specific race, gender, or sexual preference; we also wouldn't tolerate stereotyping on those grounds.

When it comes to ethnicity it's a little more complex - for example, the American South has a pretty distinct culture. Some elements associated with Southern identity are positive, others are negative. While people at DU are pretty comfortable stereotyping American Southerners, would they feel the same way about Italian American communities or Latino communities? Probably less so. And while Culture is a general learned set of opinions and attitudes, and thus subject to change, most would accept that cultures and ethnicities have both positive and negative traits - so people would be encouraged to dump the negative traits while embracing the positive traits of whatever culture/ethnicity they come from.

I agree with the formulation that belief in whatever faith you participate in is akin to love - but I don't think that will be understandable or acceptable to those anti-Theists on this board. To them, since belief is a foolish affectation to begin with, you should drop it entirely, or at least join a faith that they approve of a bit more. They literally don't understand why a person would choose to be religious except in the most shallow of terms, and as such there will always be a gap.

Bryant

Violence is wrong and the attack on them is wrong. hrmjustin May 2015 #1
Oh, I'm not saying that violent reactions are acceptable. kentauros May 2015 #2
Yes you can say it is a part of their identity. hrmjustin May 2015 #3
I agree with that about some people. kentauros May 2015 #4
It is a good op. hrmjustin May 2015 #5
Not only people of faith, but all who do criticize their mocking Starboard Tack May 2015 #8
Lol. well i find most atheists to be live and let live but there are a few that are rather dogmatic hrmjustin May 2015 #9
Very healthy attitude. Starboard Tack May 2015 #10
It is only recent. hrmjustin May 2015 #12
I think this is right on. okasha May 2015 #11
I honestly don't think there is anyway to make this argument fly el_bryanto May 2015 #6
Okay, finally have a clear enough mind kentauros May 2015 #7
There was a good article at Salon this last weekend about what religion provides el_bryanto May 2015 #26
I saw cbayer's thread in Religion on this Salon article. kentauros May 2015 #27
Beliefs are inanimate. It's like mocking a stone. rug May 2015 #13
Agreed! I think some of them realize they hurt people with their mocking and just don't care hrmjustin May 2015 #14
The realize it before they open their mouths. That's the intent. rug May 2015 #15
I can take a good natured joke or two but I must admit irl i never experience hrmjustin May 2015 #16
The thing is, they lose the power to hurt okasha May 2015 #17
Well put. Something is missing in their lives so they need to inflict it on us. hrmjustin May 2015 #18
The internet lets them do it anonymously, too, okasha May 2015 #19
Keyboard warriors. hrmjustin May 2015 #20
There was a truly ridiculous post yesterday okasha May 2015 #21
I have no problem with good questions that make you think. hrmjustin May 2015 #22
It does happen, but not often. okasha May 2015 #23
It is what it is. hrmjustin May 2015 #24
kicking. hrmjustin May 2015 #25
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