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Divernan

(15,480 posts)
23. This is AFTER the meeting w/ Warren, held at HRC's request.
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 10:24 AM
Feb 2015

So what was HRC's purpose in requesting/having this very private (no aides/witnesses present) meeting w/Warren, if NOT to "say what she wants to run on and what she wants to do"???

Trying for innocence by association? Hoping some of Warren's credibility would rub off? A little arm-twisting? A few veiled threats? Some quid pro quo promises (those have worked so well while the Clintons have accumulated their many millions of personal wealth)?
It was also interesting that no joint statement/announcement was issued afterward. Instead it was months before a report of the meeting was leaked by a "Democratic insider." The meeting was in December; the leaks in mid-February.

For a very provocative analysis of this meeting, and the pro-Clinton spin put on it by an anonymous "Democratic insider", check out this link:
http://www.news.alayham.com/content/%E2%80%8Bhillary-clinton-meets-privately-elizabeth-warren-politico-speculates-why

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/02/17/hillary-clinton-met-with-elizabeth-warren-in-december/

But she wants something else as well. The Politico article suggest that Clinton wants more than just "cred" from Warren — she wants a bit more silence: The one-on-one meeting also represented a step toward relationship building for two women who do not know each other well. And for Mrs. Clinton, it was a signal that she would prefer Ms. Warren’s counsel delivered in person, as a friendly insider, rather than on national television or in opinion articles.

About Warren and "insiders," consider what she told Bill Moyers. And again, where did the writers get such an idea?

What's the Source of Politico's Many "Speculations"?

Now let's look at the layer below the Clinton-Warren layer. This article came from somewhere. Does it contain a large amount of speculation on the writers' part, or is there an "unacknowledged source" from the Clinton team whispering into the writers' combined shell-like, helping to feed the article that helps to feed Clinton's cred?

Again, feel free to make up your own mind, but know that pieces like these don't come out of the wild blue, and the writers, Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Martin, are connected to people who know the people who know how to get things in the press. With that question about "unacknowledged sources" in mind, note the writers' ending:

Both Mrs. Clinton and her husband appeared eager to keep a close eye on Ms. Warren; Bill Clinton has appeared sensitive to her oblique criticism of his deregulation of financial institutions.

The word "appeared" appears twice in this sentence. Under what hedge do you have to be looking for these appearances to be seen? Or is it a matter of to whose mouth your ear is tuned? I'd be shocked if this piece — with all its insider-y motive-guessing — came from any source but the Clinton camp. If so, with Ms. Clinton's knowledge? On that, your speculation is as good as anyone's — and as obvious.

If you do think Clinton is ultimately the source of so much in this article, I strongly suggest you reread it carefully with that in mind and find, phrase by phrase, Clinton's likely contributions to it. What information can only come from Team Clinton? You too can hear like an insider.

http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2015/02/hillary-clinton-meets-privately-with...

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Warren implying that she will go by campaign rhetoric? merrily Feb 2015 #1
Not good. nt RiverLover Feb 2015 #3
And if she doesn't like what she hears? leftofcool Feb 2015 #2
I guess she'd be the one to ask. RiverLover Feb 2015 #5
she's not a progressive she's a democrat Romeo.lima333 Feb 2015 #4
True Gman Feb 2015 #9
That's part of the problem. Progressive policies do well in elections that Dems lose. RiverLover Feb 2015 #12
I take this as a very good sign, the possibility exists for a Warren run. NYC_SKP Feb 2015 #6
I like your sunny outlook NYC_SKP, thanks! RiverLover Feb 2015 #8
Best way to look at it. daleanime Feb 2015 #10
Elizabeth's runnin - Hillary can "bank" on it, along with her Wall Street buddies. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2015 #26
That was my reaction too, NYC_SKP. hedda_foil Feb 2015 #33
Let's hope Hillary listens to her Frosty1 Feb 2015 #7
Well she listened to bush*!! pocoloco Feb 2015 #15
Hillary owes too much to Wall Street to run honestly JDPriestly Feb 2015 #35
That may well be true BUT... Frosty1 Feb 2015 #38
HRC should just declare as a moderate republican and open up the democratic field IMHO on point Feb 2015 #11
Hillary could win the Republican nomination, tho it might be a close race between her and Jebbie. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2015 #27
I think Warren is just being, correctly, very politically correct. djean111 Feb 2015 #13
I thought it was an answer with perfect pitch. spooky3 Feb 2015 #16
Exactly, which is why progressives should make Hillary WORK for our vote... InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2015 #28
Especially because there is no mushy middle. hedda_foil Feb 2015 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2015 #29
Look. People with money do not pay out just to be listened to. JDPriestly Feb 2015 #36
Even as a new politician, Warren isn't stupid. Sancho Feb 2015 #14
Rich people hire people to do their bidding. They give to charity JDPriestly Feb 2015 #37
love it!!! love her!!!!! BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2015 #17
Wait, u sayin we shud elect a candidate based on policy & issues ratha than blindly throwin our support 2 them? That's crazy talk! haha InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2015 #30
.... BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2015 #31
haha, good to hear! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2015 #32
We are all waiting to see if she will run on a progressive platform. beemer27 Feb 2015 #18
Didn't Warren sign a letter encouraging HRC to run and pledging support? ALBliberal Feb 2015 #19
This interview explains the letter & how she studiously avoids endorsing Hillary~ RiverLover Feb 2015 #20
I like both of these "terrific" women but this back and forth is hurting our chances in 2016 ALBliberal Feb 2015 #25
I can this. Hillary is a newcomer with essentially no track record... Buzz Clik Feb 2015 #21
WAITING.....??? ProudProg2u Feb 2015 #22
This is AFTER the meeting w/ Warren, held at HRC's request. Divernan Feb 2015 #23
Fantastic article. RiverLover Feb 2015 #24
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