Populist Reform of the Democratic Party

DinahMoeHum

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10. Hey folks, please read the whole article BEFORE you comment. . .

Fri May 20, 2016, 06:53 AM

May 2016

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http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/05/19/should-progressives-unify-democratic-party-establishment-hell-no

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While remaining independent of the Democratic establishment, progressives must take the Trump threat seriously and make sure he’s defeated in November. If it’s a contest between Trump and Clinton, I support a "safe-state voting" tactic, where you can cast a protest vote or a Green Party vote in most of the country, but you vote against Trump by voting for Clinton in the dozen “swing states” where polls show a close race.

As Noam Chomsky said on Democracy Now! this week: "If Clinton is nominated and it comes to a choice between Clinton and Trump, in a swing state – a state where it’s going to matter which way you vote – I would vote against Trump, and by elementary arithmetic, that means you hold your nose and you vote Democrat. I don’t think there’s any other rational choice."

One can "hold your nose and vote Democrat" – tactically – without becoming a Democratic Party hack or a Clinton apologist. Defeating Trump does not mean we exaggerate any positives about the Democratic establishment. More important than how we vote is how we build independent progressive organizations and movements (and media) in the coming months and years.
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Noam Chomsky:
http://www.democracynow.org/2016/5/16/chomsky_on_supporting_sanders_why_he

It means, after 2016, OUR WORK AS PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS IS ONLY BEGINNING.

http://www.brandnewcongress.org
https://www.democracyforamerica.com/
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Should Progressives Unify with the Democratic Party Establishment? Hell No! [View all] eridani May 2016 OP

Unity with the Dem establishment is rewarding bad behavior Cosmic Kitten May 2016 #1

After this dirty primary? Why? pengu May 2016 #2

You are right. Centrists are the true enemies of progress. FlatBaroque May 2016 #4

It also depends on what they are Centralist between. -none May 2016 #12

I understood that they were more mainstream - TBF May 2016 #6

Yep, and them screaming "tinfoil hats" won't change the opinions of people who watched the cheating pengu May 2016 #7

That's the difference from past years TBF May 2016 #8

"It's always been that way" is the party equivilant of "Billy did it too" pengu May 2016 #9

Correct. It used to be the various sides normally had some respect fo reach other. -none May 2016 #13

+1000 n/t MissDeeds May 2016 #22

We err when we try to understand the fight when we try to frame it as rhett o rick Jun 2016 #30

We will invite them to join us when we have taken back the party we built. FlatBaroque May 2016 #3

Baby Jane Hudson said to her sister you are in the chair Protalker May 2016 #5

Hey folks, please read the whole article BEFORE you comment. . . DinahMoeHum May 2016 #10

I did read the entire article mountain grammy May 2016 #15

This post hits the "bull's eye". Great thinking! nt ladjf May 2016 #11

Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT. fleur-de-lisa May 2016 #14

I think it's disgusting that someone alerted on this post mountain grammy May 2016 #17

I'm surprised as well considering Mbrow May 2016 #20

I Am A Bernie Supporter, And Get On All Kinds Of Jury's Yallow May 2016 #23

Same here, and I was NOT on this particular one. DinahMoeHum May 2016 #24

And yet Mbrow May 2016 #27

Yes, I get on juries less often but I'm on DU less often too. The Hillary vibe of this place is too fasttense May 2016 #28

I think they should be used and abused as needed to achieve our goals stupidicus May 2016 #16

Philadelphia Approves Four Massive Pro-Bernie Sanders Rallies During DNC gordyfl May 2016 #18

As long as they vote Democratic in the fall... LuckyTheDog May 2016 #19

+1000s DinahMoeHum May 2016 #25

wow I am sorry someone alerted on this oldandhappy May 2016 #21

Trump SCOTUS possible nominee...Tom Cotton. WhiteTara May 2016 #26

Yes! JimDandy May 2016 #29