Populist Reform of the Democratic Party

starroute

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4. This is why people were suspicious of the Seattle BLM protesters

Sun Aug 16, 2015, 02:00 PM

Aug 2015

It seems pretty clear now that they were sincere. But they did point up a weak spot in Bernie's appeal that genuine ratfuckers could exploit. I expect future efforts will inflate the most disruptive tactics of BLM and then either tie Bernie to them or force him to denounce them and lose black support.

There's also the problem, as the Occupy people found out, that becoming wary of infiltrators in your midst creates a paranoid mindset that makes it difficult to take effective action or trust your own allies.

I'll read the rest of Robert Paulson's lengthy blog post and see if he has any useful suggestions for how to counter these tactics. But he's definitely right that they're going to be out there.

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Breaking Bernie: 21st Century Rat-Fucking [View all] robertpaulsen Aug 2015 OP

Excellent article. I definitely agree that every effort will be made to stop him from winning, he is sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #1

Sen Sanders is taking a huge risk to himself and his family. He acknowledged that risk rhett o rick Aug 2015 #5

Used on OWS were the same tactics McArthur and Eisenhower used on the Bonus Army merrily Aug 2015 #52

Eisenhower was part of that?? navarth Aug 2015 #63

Yes, but maybe I was mistaken about his having been a General at that time. merrily Aug 2015 #73

...and Gen. Smedley Butler would have none of it. navarth Aug 2015 #74

I'll have to read up on Smed. merrily Aug 2015 #75

He blew the whistle on the attempted fascist takeover of FDR's admin navarth Aug 2015 #78

War is a Racket is a fantastic expose! robertpaulsen Aug 2015 #80

An important forgotten part of our history. Patton did a lot of dirty work in that raid. robertpaulsen Aug 2015 #72

Those veterans had been willing to die for McArthur a few years earlier. What a fuck he must have merrily Aug 2015 #76

This better not be a rerun of Election 2000 Demeter Aug 2015 #2

Your post showed up as a tweet in #feelthebern twitter... Playinghardball Aug 2015 #3

That's because it was tweeted from here. I see it has been tweeted five times so far sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #11

This is why people were suspicious of the Seattle BLM protesters starroute Aug 2015 #4

Outside Agitators 206 is an offshoot of something called Occupy Hip Hop starroute Aug 2015 #9

Thanks for posting this info here, starroute. robertpaulsen Aug 2015 #25

I found the thread where I posted about this earlier starroute Aug 2015 #32

I found a couple links that may or may not be the same person. malokvale77 Aug 2015 #39

No effin' way. Homeland Security?! robertpaulsen Aug 2015 #43

It just can't be... malokvale77 Aug 2015 #45

This seems to be Dan Bash starroute Aug 2015 #44

How does that disclaim a link? malokvale77 Aug 2015 #46

If Senator Sanders and people of Seattle interested in hearing speakers about OASDI are a threat, merrily Aug 2015 #53

Thanks for the find, starroute. robertpaulsen Aug 2015 #68

Were they sincere? I saw them mocking Symone Sanders on a blog post and that doesn't seem sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #13

I have very mixed feelings about this starroute Aug 2015 #17

I double posted that comment, sorry about that. I totally understand the lack of faith sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #18

Hey sabrina, do you have a link to that blog post? robertpaulsen Aug 2015 #26

Not sure if I can find it again, but I will look and post if I do. sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #31

Please... malokvale77 Aug 2015 #42

On Democracy Now, too--understand the outrage, the tactics, everything but the target. merrily Aug 2015 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #13

On the subject of disruption PADemD Aug 2015 #15

Qui Bono? I am sure that the pro job killing, TPP Corps were very happy to see that disruption. sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #19

Were they the same people? hootinholler Aug 2015 #24

Can't tell. Here's the video. PADemD Aug 2015 #30

Thanks! hootinholler Aug 2015 #33

I didn't know that about the Wyden town hall meeting. PatrickforO Aug 2015 #49

Wow, thanks for that post - eom dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #51

Was he implying that the BLM protestors were pro-TPP? merrily Aug 2015 #55

That's not the impression I got. PADemD Aug 2015 #57

I got what he was talking about in general. But BLM shut down an event at which anti-TPP people merrily Aug 2015 #58

Which is precisely why we need a political revolution. zeemike Aug 2015 #6

I agree about the comparison to Robert Kennedy. jalan48 Aug 2015 #7

yep . . . . .n/t annabanana Aug 2015 #8

That's good to hear. robertpaulsen Aug 2015 #23

The late 60's were a crazy time. jalan48 Aug 2015 #40

+1 remember all of that well, sadly. navarth Aug 2015 #64

Have you read The Assassinations by Jim DiEugenio and Lisa Pease? robertpaulsen Aug 2015 #79

I haven't but I will check it out. jalan48 Aug 2015 #81

IMO, "We don't want to die killing people who did nothing to us" was eminently sane. merrily Aug 2015 #83

"He would have been President had he lived." Exactly. merrily Aug 2015 #82

The DNC and DLC are the bane(League of Shadows) saidsimplesimon Aug 2015 #10

Thank You For Sharing cantbeserious Aug 2015 #12

Actually, if the Bernie groundswell proves too big to avoid... dougolat Aug 2015 #16

And that is why they need to be prosecuted, as Bernie advocated for, for their corruption sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #20

Precisely... malokvale77 Aug 2015 #48

I've missed your voice around here hootinholler Aug 2015 #21

Thanks hootinholler! robertpaulsen Aug 2015 #22

DAYUM Dude Everyone needs to read the whole thing. hootinholler Aug 2015 #28

Someone on DU recently suggested that SBS needs a small private plane Ilsa Aug 2015 #27

Was it someone in camp weathervane? n/t hootinholler Aug 2015 #29

I'd rather see him on large commercial airlines. grasswire Aug 2015 #36

.to read complete blog post later snagglepuss Aug 2015 #34

AKA- ruffburr Aug 2015 #35

my 38-year-old family member who lost his sincere faith in America... grasswire Aug 2015 #37

We should see more of you here, RP leveymg Aug 2015 #38

Hey, good to see you! robertpaulsen Aug 2015 #69

Almost like old times. leveymg Aug 2015 #70

K/R SandersDem Aug 2015 #41

We knew the system would try and 'ratfuck' Bernie's campaign from the get-go. PatrickforO Aug 2015 #47

I hope the ratfuckers are ready... malokvale77 Aug 2015 #50

I just read that Bernie2016TV has had problems livestreaming his events. Yesterday eg, sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #66

From the source in the OP: merrily Aug 2015 #56

whether a double-cross comes from anarchists or provocateurs doesn't make much nashville_brook Aug 2015 #71

A very real possibility in my view. blackspade Aug 2015 #59

Is Counter Intelligence Infiltrating Black Lives Matter, Other Agencies or Campaigns? DhhD Aug 2015 #60

Maybe some of the people from the past can help out with how the Old Black Panthers Movement was DhhD Aug 2015 #61

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Aug 2015 #62

If, just if, "they" take out Bernie.... N_E_1 for Tennis Aug 2015 #65

Interesting drm604 Aug 2015 #67

I came across This - DNC fredamae Aug 2015 #77

WOW! Does that explain the debate schedule? merrily Aug 2015 #84

WTF is right! Enthusiast Aug 2015 #85