Democratic Primaries

RealityChik

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73. Bernie is toxic, but voters DO deserve a primary choice.

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 12:44 PM

Mar 2020

At least until at least half the primaries are done, even if the results are obvious. If Bernie could just refrain from alienating other democrats who didn't vote for him.

I'm not confident that he could unite the Democratic Party. If he can't even control his own vicious supporters, how can he keep from discouraging Democrats from not voting at all rather than vote for him. And, if he continues to drive African Americans away, we're dead. Simple as that.

I'm very much the progressive, but to beat trump we need a united front.. I don't believe Bernie is capable of delivering that. Regretfully, my first choice dropped out, so if not Bernie, then Biden.

Let's win the election first, THEN worry about fighting for the progressive agenda. We, the people, have to remain engaged in the "body-politic" in order to get the government we need. So, let's unite and get this done.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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It serves the Party for Sanders to stay in the race. [View all] Laelth Mar 2020 OP

I have no problem with Sanders staying in the race if... Sloumeau Mar 2020 #1

I agree with you on that. Laelth Mar 2020 #4

Would Sanders supporters be agreeing with this if the inverse were true? ehrnst Mar 2020 #9

I can't speak for them. n/t Laelth Mar 2020 #13

Yes you can. You said you voted for Sanders. Correct? zackymilly Mar 2020 #14

I did. I voted for Bernie. Laelth Mar 2020 #17

It's down to a chicken. Last time Bernie promised me a pony! n/t zackymilly Mar 2020 #19

But the promise of a total health care system overhaul went from 8 years down to 2.... ehrnst Mar 2020 #26

Now that you mention it ... Laelth Mar 2020 #30

How do you demand concessions when you're getting the brake beat off of you? Gothmog Mar 2020 #85

That's the crucial issue. But unfortunately even if he bows out now, supporters will keep up emmaverybo Mar 2020 #11

Hear! Hear! n/t Laelth Mar 2020 #54

He'll say he is publicly HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #51

If Bernie changes his message, I would agree. Claustrum Mar 2020 #2

My argument, here, is of the "silver lining" variety. Laelth Mar 2020 #31

He won't change his message and Trump has begun the general...Sanders needs to drop out now. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #55

How many countries have a Michigan? k8conant Mar 2020 #61

You got me...my ADHD is kicking up bigtime...counties...hehe Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #65

Yes. It's over. It was over on Super Tuesday. Laelth Mar 2020 #64

There is no silver lining. Voting in a primary and not being to turn to the general, having our Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #66

Fair enough. We shall see what we see. n/t Laelth Mar 2020 #68

Nope. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #3

Perhaps. Laelth Mar 2020 #46

Doesn't bother me Dem2 Mar 2020 #5

Why would the campaign and the surrogates change? (nt) ehrnst Mar 2020 #7

I agree. Laelth Mar 2020 #8

He's not going to change his strategy. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #16

Sigh. I am disappointed to hear that. Laelth Mar 2020 #21

Withdraw? I don't see Sanders doing that until the very last possible moment ehrnst Mar 2020 #25

I don't think his health is an issue. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #29

I have to wonder. ehrnst Mar 2020 #33

Even if there wasn't, it's not a good look. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #37

Sanders needs to pay a political price if he stays in and helps Trump...primary him in Vermont... I Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #56

Or it promotes false, unrealistic expectations, and disbelief at the inevitable reality. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2020 #6

Viable argument. Laelth Mar 2020 #10

Why do you think that first time voters aren't turning out to vote for anyone else? ehrnst Mar 2020 #18

That's not what I meant. Laelth Mar 2020 #28

No one is guaranteed their primary choice will still be in the race when their primary comes. ehrnst Mar 2020 #35

Under our current rules, they're not. I agree. Laelth Mar 2020 #36

So you think that if Sanders isn't on the ballot, his supporters won't "participate in the process?" ehrnst Mar 2020 #38

On the ballot? Laelth Mar 2020 #40

Well, isn't that what supporters of Warren, Harris, Klobuchar and Buttigieg have been dealing with? ehrnst Mar 2020 #45

This is why I get frustrated living in PA. berksdem Mar 2020 #12

This year is no different, from my perspective. Laelth Mar 2020 #32

100% agree... berksdem Mar 2020 #43

I will be thrilled to vote for Joe in November. Laelth Mar 2020 #67

I know the feeling. Ohio moved it primary date up to March 17 and it is already effectively over. pampango Mar 2020 #47

yep... it absolutely stinks berksdem Mar 2020 #62

No. He is toxic and divisive. Evergreen Emerald Mar 2020 #15

I said I thought he should concede immediately after Super Tuesday. Laelth Mar 2020 #34

I'd be fine IF Bernie shifted fire to Trump. Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #20

I agree. Laelth Mar 2020 #41

The attacks were non-stop today, Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #82

How do you feel about his top campaign advisors continued efforts to kneecap and hobble Biden... NurseJackie Mar 2020 #22

The crazy people I work with her support BS are saying it was "stolen by the establishment". redstatebluegirl Mar 2020 #27

I was just looking for the silver lining. Laelth Mar 2020 #44

It depends on how he conducts himself. Drunken Irishman Mar 2020 #23

This is exactly what they did in 2016 world wide wally Mar 2020 #24

Yes it is. Scurrilous Mar 2020 #72

No it does NOT. boston bean Mar 2020 #39

Silver Lining Laelth Mar 2020 #58

From the Hoarse Whisperer Gothmog Mar 2020 #42

i don't think it matters whether he stays in the race or not. what matters fishwax Mar 2020 #48

+1 Laelth Mar 2020 #49

It fucking matters and his supporter and campaign people spreading ani-Biden rhetoric on twitter Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #59

i think energies are better spent focusing on trump and the general, but fishwax Mar 2020 #60

No thanks HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #50

I switched my preference to Biden immediately after Super Tuesday. Laelth Mar 2020 #71

No it does not...we need to come together and heal...the primary is over. Sanders needs to bow out Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #52

OK. But it looks like he's not going to do that. Laelth Mar 2020 #74

Then we ignore him, let him make a fool of himself if he chooses. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #80

No It Doesn't Me. Mar 2020 #53

Nope. Sanders needs to suspend, today, before he starts making comments stopbush Mar 2020 #57

Yes tavernier Mar 2020 #69

What's the rush? k8conant Mar 2020 #63

It only matters if Bernie continues to attack Biden... Drunken Irishman Mar 2020 #70

Bernie is toxic, but voters DO deserve a primary choice. RealityChik Mar 2020 #73

I agree. There are other benefits too democrattotheend Mar 2020 #75

And this just adds to the reason SoCalNative Mar 2020 #76

Agree. Voters deserve to feel they are all part of the process. Sanders supporters will continue emmaverybo Mar 2020 #77

Thank you. n/t Laelth Mar 2020 #78

It doesnt matter what we do with this guy or his supporters. He and his campaign are going Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #81

There is no reason for the process to run this long. guillaumeb Mar 2020 #79

Down. Ballot. Matters. Iggo Mar 2020 #83

Watching sanders lose primary races by large margins will be amusing Gothmog Mar 2020 #84

Bernie should stay in as long as Biden has less than 1991 delegates iwannaknow Mar 2020 #86